New Estate System

[Phellan]

There's still a problem with some regions in TO.

I gathered, since it exists.

My question is how do we fix it?  Suggestions?

[Tom]

I gathered, since it exists.

My question is how do we fix it?  Suggestions?

Not immediately, no. I will be cleaning them up, assigning them to a bordering duchy. But I need to fix up the TO code.

[Bael]

Hm.. The new system is great :) I didn't lose much gold. Well to be fair I had nothing to lose to begin with :).

But from reading the new report, knights seem to receive a lot of gold. Lords can adjust that in time I am sure.

From my experience, the most that a Lord can tax their knight is 50%. So in my case, I have only one Knight with a 50% size estate. So the least that I can give them is 25% percent of the region tax. (half of 50%). Of course, this is the upper end of the scale regarding estate size (from which they derive their gold). Many knights would have smaller estates.

[Chenier]

From my experience, the most that a Lord can tax their knight is 50%. So in my case, I have only one Knight with a 50% size estate. So the least that I can give them is 25% percent of the region tax. (half of 50%). Of course, this is the upper end of the scale regarding estate size (from which they derive their gold). Many knights would have smaller estates.

Or you could just resize his estate to 1% and tax 50% of that if you want. *That* would be the least you could give him, 0.5%.

Obviously, he'd have to be pretty stupid to accept that, and it wouldn't really make you any richer than if you had no knights at all. ;)

[Tom]

Or you could just resize his estate to 1%

No, you can't. Estates have minimum sizes, too.

[egamma]

No, you can't. Estates have minimum sizes, too.

10% minimum for my townsland, which is 900 peasants.

[Chenier]

No, you can't. Estates have minimum sizes, too.

I see.

I created a 5% estate the other day. Didn't try to create smaller, so I didn't know. 5% is pretty darn small, though.

Point remains, as 50% of 5% is 2.5%, which is perhaps a penny more than 0.5% would have been with the rounding or just about.

[egamma]

I see.

I created a 5% estate the other day. Didn't try to create smaller, so I didn't know. 5% is pretty darn small, though.

Point remains, as 50% of 5% is 2.5%, which is perhaps a penny more than 0.5% would have been with the rounding or just about.

Okay, so we have:
5% minimum for cities
10% for townslands

[Chenier]

Okay, so we have:
5% minimum for cities
10% for townslands

It would appear so.

[JPierreD]

Okay, so we have:
5% minimum for cities
10% for townslands

Nope, it depends on population, not only on type. Giask has max estate size of 30%, while Shinnen of 50%. Efficiency in Shinnen Purlieus for the same estate size is different than in Outer Giask. (All this regions are of Dwilight, first two are cities, second two are townslands)

[Ramiel]

Nope, it depends on population, not only on type. Giask has max estate size of 30%, while Shinnen of 50%. Efficiency in Shinnen Purlieus for the same estate size is different than in Outer Giask. (All this regions are of Dwilight, first two are cities, second two are townslands)

Aye, its a mystical combination of Region Type and (Max?) Population.

[Chenier]

Nope, it depends on population, not only on type. Giask has max estate size of 30%, while Shinnen of 50%. Efficiency in Shinnen Purlieus for the same estate size is different than in Outer Giask. (All this regions are of Dwilight, first two are cities, second two are townslands)

Why are you comparing max estate size with min estate size? They might not follow the same rules.

[Ramiel]

Why are you comparing max estate size with min estate size? They might not follow the same rules.

If they didnt, i would be surprised.

[Chenier]

If they didnt, i would be surprised.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had additional arbitrary min-max caps that vary according to city/everything else.

[Ramiel]

I wouldn't be surprised if they had additional arbitrary min-max caps that vary according to city/everything else.

It sounds like you have an optimism for pessimism... wouldnt it take far more coding to do that?