The Zuma

[Vellos]

Welcome to Terran, the Gondor of Dwilight.

D'Hara are the elves.

Barca is Rohan, trying to survive (Mendicant)Saruman's Uruk-Hai hordes whose numbers are unmatched and that move with swiftness and speed... even in daylight! And regard Barcan civilization as the decadent World of Men ready to fall.


I could go on about each. The analogies are stunning.

And Mendicant has looked into the Palantir of Orthanc....

[Perth]

Meanwhile in D'hara...

Pretty sure this was already established as being Glaumring.  :P

[Stabbity]

No one made her, but it they made it quite tempting. Getting protested out of office due to corruption usually means you ain't getting power for a long, long time which means that realm is no longer good, nor any moot realm.

The thing that got me was the protest messages that went "If they allegations are true..."

[JeVondair]

So I know this is not the right place for it, but since it has come up, did you have Jonsu really do those things? Or did the old boys make it all up? I never did find out.

[Meneldur]

So I know this is not the right place for it, but since it has come up, did you have Jonsu really do those things? Or did the old boys make it all up? I never did find out.

I am 90% sure if my memory is correct that Jonsu really did do those things. I recall that my character (Constantine) received a game-mechanics message that said gold was going missing before the allegations started flying, which from an OOC perspective pretty much means she was guilty.

Ofc at the time Constantine was convinced she was innocent and remained a supporter of Jonsu's until she left for Luria (which is why he took her betrayal so personally), however OOC I'm pretty certain there was something fishy going on.

[Chenier]

I was glad to see her gone, and quite disappointed when Bowie insisted that she stay. What an unpleasant character... bitching all the time for the sake of bitching. And vindictive against the ones she was the one to betray, as if it was somehow our fault she was corrupt, stole tax gold from region lords, and defected to the enemy. The allegations were real, and I believe the player even confirmed it OOC.

[Geronus]

Whoa, so each one of those twelve characters could potentially field a ten-thousand CS army? And each could be worth as much as thirty-thousand CS? That is insane!

Be glad you weren't around BT for the Fourth Invasion. We were absurdly, insanely outmatched.

From what I have seen, the Zuma field a mix of daimon and monster units. Both are bad. The daimons tend to either be very long-ranged SF units (dishing out thousands of hits at 5+ lines away) or apocalyptically powerful cavalry-type units that can fly (and charge) over walls. One unit of charging daimons can devastate an entire army's infantry line. Also of note, they have no discernible morale and units will fight to the death every single time.

Monsters are another story. They're less explosive in terms of damage output, but also far harder to kill and they can come in truly obscene numbers. Monster armies have no special capabilities I'm aware of, they're just really big and really tough. They will outlast you in combat. Their weakness is relatively poor morale. The way you win against them is by making them rout before they grind your army into bits, which is exactly what will happen to you if they don't rout.

It's extremely hard to estimate daimon and monster combat-effectiveness because the units tend to vary considerably in different times and places, and are not always consistently named. It's entirely possible that the Zuma units have customized capabilities that make them different than their BT counterparts, but I would guess that there are similarities to the basic outline I have described.

[Gustav Kuriga]

Dear lord, why can't the Zuma build roads. D:

[Chenier]

So, how long until the Zuma demand a thousand unique items in tribute from Aurvandil for taking regions on the frontier as they did with Barca?

[Nosferatus]

It's extremely hard to estimate daimon and monster combat-effectiveness because the units tend to vary considerably in different times and places, and are not always consistently named. It's entirely possible that the Zuma units have customized capabilities that make them different than their BT counterparts, but I would guess that there are similarities to the basic outline I have described.

Find your self an adventurer and have him find out.
Adventurers can investigate Monster, Undead and i also think Daimon units.

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Find your self an adventurer and have him find out.
Adventurers can investigate Monster, Undead and i also think Daimon units.

Can't investigate Daimon units.

[cenrae]

My adventurer has a banishment scroll...

[JeVondair]

My adventurer has a banishment scroll...

Which will work exactly once and only piss them off.

Use it well, brave sir. use it well.

[Nosferatus]

Can't investigate Daimon units.

sounds reasonable

You can fool a stupid troll or a rotting skull, but never mistake a daimons senses for being dull.

[Anaris]

My adventurer has a banishment scroll...

...which he can't read.