titan protocols

[Nosferatus]

My character was recently removed from his position as banker because of asking a lord of a region to be active.
It did not mention what incident this is about and what the titans mean with asking to be active.
I do recall my character aksing a lord not to ignore him for weeks and either buy food offers or apoint a steward, which he eventually did.

I cannot recall anything else that could have caused this.

I find it rather strange and lack a decent explanation.
Atleast the magistrates explain everything, the titans aparently don't.

Can we give more detailed explanations to the effected player if a titan makes a decision in the future? and can i have my explanation on my individual case?

[Tom]

Yes that is one of the disadvantages of the Titan system. We really need to unify these. But for that the Magistrate system needs to move faster, right now it is a bogged-down court that it should have never been.

[egamma]

Do we want to go ahead and disaband the titan system? I like the magistrates, although it may be better to assign 5 randomly to any one particular case, and maybe have post moderation on the thread (meaning, posts don't appear for non-mods until they are reviewed and approved).

[Tom]

Basically, yes. But there are a few tweaks needed first, some code to be finished.

[Chenier]

Magistrates work way faster than I've ever seen the Titans work at...

Titans have a reason to be, imo, but only for cheating, and not for violations of the social contract, because magistrates don't have tools to check for cheating and such checks shouldn't be publicly displayed as they are with the magistrates.

[Anaris]

Magistrates work way faster than I've ever seen the Titans work at...

I've actually seen the Titans work a lot more than you have.

Aside from periods when there were only 1 or 2 Titans active, they tend to get through issues much, much faster than the Magistrates, by and large.

[Chenier]

I've actually seen the Titans work a lot more than you have.

Aside from periods when there were only 1 or 2 Titans active, they tend to get through issues much, much faster than the Magistrates, by and large.

I did not witness everything. But I have never witnessed the titans take as much time as almost all of the titan cases I witnessed.

Sure, the sample is old, but it wasn't just one particular month either, but a couple of years.

In any case, 5 days, on the game's pace, seems quite reasonnable by me.

[Tom]

5 days can be an eternity. When you wait for a cute girl to call you back, for example. :-)


I'm putting down a foot here and giving targets that I think are reasonable:

   
• An obvious case should be resolved within 2 days
• Most cases should be resolved within 4-5 days
• No case should take longer than 14 days, no matter how much discussion and questions/answers it requires

"obvious" is the tricky word there that I can't define, basically I mean cases where you take one look and you just know it. Like someone posting "I want everyone to log in 10 minutes prior to the turn tomorrow!" (#1 IR violations don't get any more clear than that) or someone complaining about the judge banning his favorite character with a reasonable IC reason (clearly not a violation of the IR or Social Contract).

[LilWolf]

Yes that is one of the disadvantages of the Titan system. We really need to unify these. But for that the Magistrate system needs to move faster, right now it is a bogged-down court that it should have never been.

All you really need to do is lock the magistrate case threads quicker. As is, they just go on and on despite devolving into pointless nitpicking and the facts of the case have already been brought up multiple times.

[Vellos]

5 days can be an eternity. When you wait for a cute girl to call you back, for example. :-)


I'm putting down a foot here and giving targets that I think are reasonable:

   
• An obvious case should be resolved within 2 days
• Most cases should be resolved within 4-5 days
• No case should take longer than 14 days, no matter how much discussion and questions/answers it requires

"obvious" is the tricky word there that I can't define, basically I mean cases where you take one look and you just know it. Like someone posting "I want everyone to log in 10 minutes prior to the turn tomorrow!" (#1 IR violations don't get any more clear than that) or someone complaining about the judge banning his favorite character with a reasonable IC reason (clearly not a violation of the IR or Social Contract).

IMHO, we have not had any obvious cases.

[Chaotrance13]

I've actually seen the Titans work a lot more than you have.

Aside from periods when there were only 1 or 2 Titans active, they tend to get through issues much, much faster than the Magistrates, by and large.

That would be why they rejected an issue I raised about a player being abusive and attempting to use the Titans as weapons  because it was "too old, resubmit if still relevant". This was a couple of months back, and I only got that response something like 2-3 months after I filed the original report.

Not to mention the fact that when I filed an SMA report on Dwilight (and I apologise if those aren't dealt with by the Titans), it was rejected with something along the lines of "stop being so anal". I'm sorry - last I checked the feature was there to report a potential breach of SMA. Give me the Magistrates any day - it's better than being ignored or insulted by nameless, faceless individuals even if it takes longer.

[Chenier]

5 days can be an eternity. When you wait for a cute girl to call you back, for example. :-)


I'm putting down a foot here and giving targets that I think are reasonable:

   
• An obvious case should be resolved within 2 days
• Most cases should be resolved within 4-5 days
• No case should take longer than 14 days, no matter how much discussion and questions/answers it requires

"obvious" is the tricky word there that I can't define, basically I mean cases where you take one look and you just know it. Like someone posting "I want everyone to log in 10 minutes prior to the turn tomorrow!" (#1 IR violations don't get any more clear than that) or someone complaining about the judge banning his favorite character with a reasonable IC reason (clearly not a violation of the IR or Social Contract).

Sounds reasonnable.

[Nosferatus]

i agree with Toms ideas.

However i'd still like to know why my character lost its position as Banker.

[Tom]

I think there was a complaint involving a region lord where food was piling up and the banker asked the lord to sell it and the lord was semi-inactive and the banker complained about that. Could it have been that?

[egamma]

I think there was a complaint involving a region lord where food was piling up and the banker asked the lord to sell it and the lord was semi-inactive and the banker complained about that. Could it have been that?

I think so, given the other threads I have read.