The Marrocidenian war

[Chenier]

So let's divide each of the sides into strengths and weaknesses.

Aurvandil:
Better single realm army
From what I hear, better general
on defense
only uses gold for military
Doesn't have far to refit
winning streak

The Theocracies+Terran
Gold lots of gold
Bigger total army
can invade from pretty much anywhere
more total nobles
terran can harass paisly and paisland while the other fight down south


what did i miss?

Harass Paisly and Paisland? You mean, outright take it away from Aurvandil, right?

[Perth]

So let's divide each of the sides into strengths and weaknesses.

Aurvandil:
Better single realm army
From what I hear, better general
on defense
only uses gold for military
Doesn't have far to refit
winning streak

The Theocracies+Terran
Gold lots of gold
Bigger total army
can invade from pretty much anywhere
more total nobles
terran can harass paisly and paisland while the other fight down south


what did i miss?

It's going to be a good war.

[DamnTaffer]

Bankrupting? You must be joking...

A figure of speech...

Money isn't the problem, my character is glad he can spend it on something finally. Problem is the nasty mercenary setting bug.

What bug is this?

[Kellaine]

What bug is this?

ya I would like to know if there is a mercenary bug. I am set to mercenary now and morale is still dropping fast

[egamma]

http://bugs.battlemaster.org/view.php?id=7490

[Vellos]

So let's divide each of the sides into strengths and weaknesses.

Aurvandil:
Better single realm army
From what I hear, better general
on defense
only uses gold for military
Doesn't have far to refit
winning streak

The Theocracies+Terran
Gold lots of gold
Bigger total army
can invade from pretty much anywhere
more total nobles
terran can harass paisly and paisland while the other fight down south


what did i miss?

C'mon, let's be honest what this war's really about:

Religious Internationalists vs. Non-Religious Unilateralists

Clash of ideologies. So much more interesting. It's not SA v. Aurvandil. A big chunk of the fighting is being done by Triunists. If/when D'hara gets involved again, VE will be involved.

[Chenier]

C'mon, let's be honest what this war's really about:

Religious Internationalists vs. Non-Religious Unilateralists

Clash of ideologies. So much more interesting. It's not SA v. Aurvandil. A big chunk of the fighting is being done by Triunists. If/when D'hara gets involved again, VE will be involved.

They've already destroyed temples and persecuted Elementalists. VE does not see Aurvandil favourably, but we have a tradition of remaining neutral in political affairs.

[Nosferatus]

They've already destroyed temples and persecuted Elementalists. VE does not see Aurvandil favourably, but we have a tradition of remaining neutral in political affairs.

How can you be neutral if your beeing attacked?

[Chenier]

How can you be neutral if your beeing attacked?

Some elementalists are still there, I believe. The persecutions have been moderate, so to stand back we give the northerners more time to bash their skulls in instead of provoking them to intensify the anti-religion campaign.

[NoblesseChevaleresque]

I'm sorry, what persecution exactly?

You mean the temples in the duchies of Madina and Paisly that Mendicant specifically ordered to be left untouched and remain as such save for one temple? Or the priests we allowed into the realm and gave legal immunity to? Aurvandil hasn't persecuted VE, however VE made a point of spitting in our face when they stole land and incited a Dukes rebellion in order to further their religious aims. Don't try to act like they've been persecuted, when at most Margrave Lex refused to let them build a temple in Madina after  Margrave Lucius went against Mendicant's order to tear down the temple, which was Lex's right to refuse them as it was his city, to which they responded by stealing an entire duchy and giving to the Grand Duchy and then trying to incite a war against Aurvandil, and failing that, incited one against the Falkirkian Freestate who held the right and claim to the lands they stole.

VE hasn't been persecuted, they just haven't got their own way as much as they'd like. But really, Aurvandil has been overly courteous to a religion we didn't need to be with and had no reason to be.

[Feylonis]

You're doing so well in winning more friends. Go you!

[NoblesseChevaleresque]

You're doing so well in winning more friends. Go you!

Mendicant makes friends with people he actually likes, not just whomever is in front of him at the time.

[egamma]

they responded by stealing an entire duchy and giving to the Grand Duchy and then trying to incite a war against Aurvandil, and failing that, incited one against the Falkirkian Freestate who held the right and claim to the lands they stole.

False. The Duke owns the lands of the duchy, and the duke switched allegiance. That is treason, not theft. The Falkirkian Freestate did not exist, therefore it could not have rights to those lands.

[Glaumring the Fox]

You're doing so well in winning more friends. Go you!

And you the pillar of trustworthiness.

[NoblesseChevaleresque]

False. The Duke owns the lands of the duchy, and the duke switched allegiance. That is treason, not theft. The Falkirkian Freestate did not exist, therefore it could not have rights to those lands.

Thanks, but I know how things are run in Aurvandil.

The Commonwealth owns the land, and grants authority to the High Sovereign to delegate land as he pleases, the dukes may "own the land" but they lack the authority to remove the land from the Commonwealth, as the land is sworn to the Commonwealth first and foremost. Only the High Sovereign has the direct legal powers to say what is or isn't apart of the Commonwealth.

The Falkirkian Freestate didn't exist, but it still held the rights because the High Sovereign gave Falkirk a mandate granting them absolute authority over the territory and the permission to secede from the Commonwealth, thus they hold the right to the territory.