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Kabrinskia, Astrum, and other such stuff of the North Western Astroist states.

Started by Gustav Kuriga, November 17, 2012, 10:36:25 PM

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Indirik

It might be more fun to let her found her new church (in Aurvandil of all places? Seriously? Talk about giving her opponents loads of free ammunition, and marginalizing yourself at the same time...) and then ignore it. I mean, we don't really *have* to do anything about her. And her choice of location pretty much guarantees that the only way she could expand would be by Aurvandilian conquest, and Mendicant's good graces. I can't help but think that this is *not* one of Allison's best choices.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Telrunya

I'm curious how it will go. Allison has a certain way with things. That is, as soon as Nobles can leave Sanguis Astroism :P

Glaumring the Fox

I think its awesome and I see Allison doing some cool stuff. I hope it will embolden many more to found new faiths and kingdoms. Dwilight only gains from more diversity.
We live lives in beautiful lies...

Bjarnson

Quote from: Glaumring on November 26, 2012, 09:30:09 PM
I hope it will embolden many more to found new faiths and kingdoms. Dwilight only gains from more diversity.

+1
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Penchant

I am obviously missing something, so what is it you are all talking about?
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
― G.K. Chesterton

Lanyon

Allison was banned from kabrinskia and seceded there only to to astrum and then got kicked out of astrum and went to aurvandil. now she's just chilling.

Chenier

If she leaves and fails, it will only make SA more monolithic without adding any diversity whatsoever.

I do not believe this will bring more diversity and that Dwilight would necessarily gain from such a move.

When Guillaume seceded from Enweil to form Fheuv'n, he figured it would allow him to develop a new rich culture that would otherwise be restrained in mainstream Enweil. The result, however, was the marginalization/ghettoïsation of the radical elements and stagnation of Enweil.

I tend to suspect something similar would happen if Allison and her cronies leave to found a new religion.
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Glaumring the Fox

We live lives in beautiful lies...

Indirik

Quote from: Lanyon on November 27, 2012, 02:50:26 AM
Allison was banned from kabrinskia and seceded there only to to astrum
More correctly, Allison swapped the allegiance of her duchy (which comprised the entire realm of Kabrinskia) from Kabrinskia to Astrum. This is not a secession. Secession involves the formation of a new, independent realm. Leaving one realm and joining an exiting realm is just a change of allegiance.

Quoteand then got kicked out of astrum and went to aurvandil. now she's just chilling.
Allison was not kicked out of Astrum. She was offered an estate in Eidulb, and the opportunity to stay in Astrum as long as she wanted. She declined. She left because the nobles of the former Kabrinskia did not want her in their new realm. (Or at least did not want her to have any position of power in the new realm in any way.)
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Penchant

Quote from: Indirik on November 27, 2012, 05:21:53 AM
She left because the nobles of the former Kabrinskia did not want her in their new realm. (Or at least did not want her to have any position of power in the new realm in any way.)
How did this happen? Were peopled just pissed off because she changed allegiance or what?
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
― G.K. Chesterton

Zakilevo

Quote from: Penchant on November 27, 2012, 06:25:45 AM
How did this happen? Were peopled just pissed off because she changed allegiance or what?

Probably... I mean people probably didn't want to leave Kabrinskia.

Naidraug

Quote from: Penchant on November 27, 2012, 06:25:45 AM
How did this happen? Were peopled just pissed off because she changed allegiance or what?

Basically yes, she started to threaten everyone if we didn't protested Brom out of office and then when this was actually happening, she simply changed  the duchy and killed the realm just so she wouldn't lose her duchess status.

So most of the nobles in the realm said she had to step down as duchess and we would recreate our realm and she could stay, but with out any power.
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Chenier

Quote from: Glaumring on November 27, 2012, 04:48:01 AM
So basically don't even try... ::)

Free men never stop fighting!!!

There are ways to achieve such objectives. IMO, that's not a viable way.

Allison is quickly losing all power and influence. She is trying to hold onto it too much, forcing her to do drastic actions that accelerate her decline. From experience, my characters that couldn't accept a fall fell much lower than those who accepted to roll with things.

This is the end of Allison. I'm just annoyed that she wants to give Aurvandil a boost now, though.
Dit donc camarade soleil / Ne trouves-tu ça pas plutôt con / De donner une journée pareil / À un patron

Glaumring the Fox

Fun means different things to different people, I flip over a table draw my swords and start spinning like a mad man killing everyone in the room... Only afterwards do I stop and see who died. Then I jump through a window with a bottle of whiskey, tuck and roll onto the street and grab a horse running by, pull the guy riding it off it and punch his face, now im on a horse with two swords and im smashing through the town jail saving my friends, its awesome, I toss them swords and we fight our way out of the building, its chaos, so many dudes are dying, we make it out of the town. We're at the club house, some chicks are there, whoaaa we get laid, its an awesome time...
We live lives in beautiful lies...

dustole

We will see what several thousand gold and a handful of courtiers/priests/diplomats can do for Aurvandil.   The gold should help replenish their army and we should be able to maintain their regions for a high tax rate once again.
Kabrinski Family:  Nathaniel (EC), Franklin (BT), Aletha(DWI)