'Course, judging by how Madina went about that last little operation, that could be quite some time from now.
I will admit that the battle reports us northerners got sure didn't look pretty. But you have to admit, the results were impressive: Madina raids Aurvandil, and two Aurvandil regions go rogue. If they can duplicate those results a time or two more, Aurvandil will be history.