Southern War of Nobility (Civil war in Madina)

[Phellan]

Oh yeah, silly me. You realise you only got that deal because Halicos likes Vallyn, right? :P 40 gold is a ridiculously low amount to sell for!

I was surprised you got that extra one, Halicos needs to work harder it seems :(

It crossed my mind, but then Halicos isn't on those kinda terms with the Duke of Tower Fatmilak. Plus we don't have good enough recruitment centres and Halicos refuses to build any.

Halicos has the biggest, most well fortified and lonely castle in Fatmilak.   He has his profits. . and no friends :(  Well, except Corin :D  And turns out even he was scamming you for gold ;)

[Nathan]

Halicos has the biggest, most well fortified and lonely castle in Fatmilak.   He has his profits. . and no friends :( 

He talks to his gold quite a lot, meaning he currently has 158 friends. He traded a few hundred of them away recently so that he can gather a few more friends from D'Hara.

Well, except Corin :D  And turns out even he was scamming you for gold ;)

Oh I know that, but I offset that against the business he accumulates for Halicos. Besides, I need him onside in case we start selling to the Zuma again - absolutely no way Halicos is wandering into daimon land after what happened when they visited last time (or some time in the past).

I could certainly get more gold off him, but to be fair, Halicos is happy with what he has. If he starts losing sales of food then he'll definitely crack down on Corin, but for now, he can have his gold :P

[egamma]

Besides, I need him onside in case we start selling to the Zuma again - absolutely no way Halicos is wandering into daimon land after what happened when they visited last time (or some time in the past).

We (in D'Hara) suspected as much, but that's rather careless of you to say on the forums.

[Nathan]

We (in D'Hara) suspected as much, but that's rather careless of you to say on the forums.

Only if people are taking OOC info into game, and I have faith that you're all honourable fellows :)

Besides, Zuma are offering 80 gold per hundred bushels, who wouldn't jump at that offer? Fairly easy to presume that anyone the Zuma contact are going to sell food to them.

[Shizzle]

Only if people are taking OOC info into game, and I have faith that you're all honourable fellows :)

Usually it's cool to discover something OC and OOC at the same time. Why read a book if you already know the plot? :/

[Nathan]

Usually it's cool to discover something OC and OOC at the same time.

You mean you didn't know the Zuma were buying food from people? Sorry, I thought it was fairly common knowledge >.<

That is actually fairly interesting though. I thought The Zuma had their tendrils (and/or other extremities that may/may not exist on their being) into most realms on the western side of the continent (or at least had touched those realms in some way).

[Glaumring the Fox]

Asylon(I think) is one of the Zuma's largest suppliers of grain.

[egamma]

Asylon(I think) is one of the Zuma's largest suppliers of grain.

Sounds like Asylon AND Madina, and possibly others. It's fairly easy to put the stats charts together with the "we don't have food for sale" messages.

[Chenier]

Sounds like Asylon AND Madina, and possibly others. It's fairly easy to put the stats charts together with the "we don't have food for sale" messages.

Indeed, when our cities starve and we get answered "we are out of food", obviously because said food was sold to someone else, that's a strong irritant right there.

As for Fatmilak's stocks, don't expect my caravans to buy enough to ward off the rot. Not this week, at least. I make it my policy to send caravans to every region that has a sell offer every time I've got the gold to send them, regardless of the sell price. However, I put a lot more gold in the caravans going towards cheaper selling regions. And as it is, many regions are selling at 30-35 gold per 100.

[Vellos]

Sounds like Asylon AND Madina, and possibly others. It's fairly easy to put the stats charts together with the "we don't have food for sale" messages.

Ehh.... not quite. Terran sells at most 100-200 bushels a month to the Zuma, and that only incidentally from one region. We rarely sold because, even with 140% supply, a bad winter, a monster attack, or a mistake with caravans can wipe out the entire excess. For example, Terran just now had some kind of disaster in Mistight and misplaced 600 bushels. It won't utterly destroy us, but the winter may get tricky.

[Chenier]

Ehh.... not quite. Terran sells at most 100-200 bushels a month to the Zuma, and that only incidentally from one region. We rarely sold because, even with 140% supply, a bad winter, a monster attack, or a mistake with caravans can wipe out the entire excess. For example, Terran just now had some kind of disaster in Mistight and misplaced 600 bushels. It won't utterly destroy us, but the winter may get tricky.

You should ship it all to D'Hara for safekeeping. No rogues will hurt it there. :P

[Phellan]

Sounds like Asylon AND Madina, and possibly others. It's fairly easy to put the stats charts together with the "we don't have food for sale" messages.

i dont think we've actually sold too much to them, not at least regularily.   We've had issues with the distance - currently (unless its Halicos) we just sell to D'Hara really.

[D`Este]

You should ship it all to D'Hara for safekeeping. No rogues will hurt it there. :P

Only revolting regions there which make you lose access to your food. :P

[Nathan]

Indeed, when our cities starve and we get answered "we are out of food", obviously because said food was sold to someone else, that's a strong irritant right there.

Part of the reasoning behind Fatmilak buying up everyone else's food; means we're consistent in our supply. I think Fatmilak has only failed once that I know of and Abbot got a rather stern letter from Halicos about that. All of Fatmilak's food went to Madina city for a really low price, only to be turned back.

We've had issues with the distance - currently (unless its Halicos) we just sell to D'Hara really.

No distance problems for Halicos, but he's been preferring to sell to D'Hara lately. I did have Corin running back and forth between the Zuma, but it's no fun for his player travelling for weeks. He did mention lately he'd like to go back, so I'll bring it up again. Only problem might be making him buy his own food back for 10 gold more than he sold it to me for, Halicos' honour wouldn't allow him to cheat someone like that.

[egamma]

Only revolting regions there which make you lose access to your food. :P

The only reason our regions revolt is because they are starving. If we have an extra 2000 bushels, then they won't revolt. Our rat-breeding peasants will double in number over the winter, giving us more gold, which we can then use to buy more food.