What makes a D'haran?

[JeVondair]

That and Rynn keeps saying "Oh, so you have a problem with the way things are? Run for a position. Oh, you don't want to work to change anything? then stfu or, as machiavel so endearingly put it, gtfo 

Ahh at last, a proper emote

[Penchant]

ballsy little spat, though. It's not everyday that any D'Haran stands up to Machiavel.

I don't even have a proper emote for that statement.

He has been around the block. He isn't some new knight that's going to be a pushover.

That and Rynn keeps saying "Oh, so you have a problem with the way things are? Run for a position. Oh, you don't want to work to change anything? then stfu or, as machiavel so endearingly put it, gtfo 

Ahh at last, a proper emote

+1. Whine, whine, whine but he doesn't want to do !@#$ about it other than whine. "The MC is destroying a political capabilities." That's not the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. O wait it is. Before knights had no input, no representative, and now he is complaining about how it somehow lessens the knights politic abilities or some crap.

[Chenier]

ballsy little spat, though. It's not everyday that any D'Haran stands up to Machiavel.

I don't even have a proper emote for that statement.

Machiavel doesn't often take a firm public stance for one to oppose.

Beside, these months, plenty of younglings have opposed Machiavel.

At least that particularily vindictive one can't be heard anymore... I think he left, right? Kept making radical opinions based on absolutely nothing at all, and would whine about how we are crushing his freedom with our evil rational explanations. Couldn't stand him, he was pretty much as bad as Jonsu. Can't recall his name, though... he came from the Lurias, though.

Whine, whine, whine but he doesn't want to do !@#$ about it other than whine. "The MC is destroying a political capabilities." That's not the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. O wait it is. Before knights had no input, no representative, and now he is complaining about how it somehow lessens the knights politic abilities or some crap.

I don't quite agree. I could easily believe that Ismail is usurping the MC to give his voice more power and influence than it actually deserves. Many voices has suggested as much to me. I'm not saying I agree with his vision, but at least it supports itself somewhat.

That and Rynn keeps saying "Oh, so you have a problem with the way things are? Run for a position. Oh, you don't want to work to change anything? then stfu or, as machiavel so endearingly put it, gtfo 

Ahh at last, a proper emote

Machiavel preffered your response. Felt wrong to say what he did, he doesn't like being this openly antagonistic.

[Penchant]

Machiavel doesn't often take a firm public stance for one to oppose.

Beside, these months, plenty of younglings have opposed Machiavel.

At least that particularily vindictive one can't be heard anymore... I think he left, right? Kept making radical opinions based on absolutely nothing at all, and would whine about how we are crushing his freedom with our evil rational explanations. Couldn't stand him, he was pretty much as bad as Jonsu. Can't recall his name, though... he came from the Lurias, though.

Was it Anselmo?

I don't quite agree. I could easily believe that Ismail is usurping the MC to give his voice more power and influence than it actually deserves. Many voices has suggested as much to me. I'm not saying I agree with his vision, but at least it supports itself somewhat.

I am still in the MC. He doesn't usurp power, but he might extend some of the support every once in a while, since none of them want to talk. When the few that do talk are in support, it might sound like there is a bit support than there is. He generally does a really good job of summarizing those who actually talked, IMO, as he usually includes everything that was said somehow in his summary.

Machiavel preffered your response. Felt wrong to say what he did, he doesn't like being this openly antagonistic.

I like them both, favoring Rynn's approach but thinking that with his response, Machiavel's was also quite fitting.

[Chenier]

Was it Anselmo?

Yea, I think so. That dude should have been paired up with Jonsu, I tell you.

I like them both, favoring Rynn's approach but thinking that with his response, Machiavel's was also quite fitting.

Machiavel would have preferred them switched.

[JeVondair]

Yea, I think so. That dude should have been paired up with Jonsu, I tell you.

Or both of them with Glaumring 

[Chenier]

Or both of them with Glaumring 

Glaumring's a different kind...

He was of surprising lucidity at the start of our relations. Anselmo and Jonsu, however, not so much. Just plain and pure antagonism.

[Tandaros]

The MC is indeed pretty quiet and Ismail does the best he can to provide some leadership, maybe stir up some reform or whatnot. Whether he stretches things occasionally, well, that's a possibility. 

[Anaris]

Clearly, as I half-suspected, one of the biggest victories over D'Hara we have achieved is the destruction of Luria Vesperi, which caused Tarajist to join them.

[Chenier]

Clearly, as I half-suspected, one of the biggest victories over D'Hara we have achieved is the destruction of Luria Vesperi, which caused Tarajist to join them.

We got a bunch of nobles to liven things up and increase our might, a fair trade-off.

[JeVondair]

lol

[Tandaros]

Clearly, as I half-suspected, one of the biggest victories over D'Hara we have achieved is the destruction of Luria Vesperi, which caused Tarajist to join them.

Never mind proxy wars - the wave of the future is troll wars.

[Chenier]

The Dragon King's been attacked! 

Totally blaming Glaumring for it. 

[D'Espana]

As if you were sad for it

[Glaumring the Fox]

Totally revels in the blame...