Exile should not block banishment

[Foundation]

Um...the ban goes into effect immediately. That prevents banking and recruiting.

The ban does not make the noble a rogue until three turns have passed.

Whoawhoawhoa, what an abundance of learning today. 

[fifo]

Nice.

Well, anyways. It doesn't see to make a lot of sense to me. Neither technically, nor from an IG perspective. Being in exile shouldn't save someone from being banned.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

It's a question of whether someone wants to live a life in the realm with basically nothing or set out to start anew somewhere else.

If exile works as described in the ruler command, then exiled noble should have very few messages, and can't use the banks, can't recruit, etc. If you're really spiteful of the ruler, you could stay, but then you have one character doing basically nothing.

[Bedwyr]

Nothing except causing the Ruler to lose honour (every day) and prestige (every week).  And if you get your taxes in gold, then not being able to use a bank isn't that much of a problem.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

What else though? If all that can be done is collect gold, then it appears that such is not strong enough incentive to keep people around in a realm.

[De-Legro]

I've seen people do it. I guess the joy of watching the ruler lose honour and prestige is more then enough reward.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Yes, but I have a feeling that the point was not only to make it a battle of spite but also something that would actually make the exiled noble want to leave. It would be a sort of alternative to banning, in that instead of telling the noble he is banished from the realm, he is told that there is nothing for him in the realm. While not forbidden from entering the lands, there would be no home waiting for him.

[De-Legro]

Yes, but I have a feeling that the point was not only to make it a battle of spite but also something that would actually make the exiled noble want to leave. It would be a sort of alternative to banning, in that instead of telling the noble he is banished from the realm, he is told that there is nothing for him in the realm. While not forbidden from entering the lands, there would be no home waiting for him.

Exactly, and the only real incentive people have to stick around is pure spite. Or if they are a priest I would guess it wouldn't impact them too badly.

[DoctorHarte]

Psh, I've been exiled twice on two different characters and neither were anywhere close to royalty. The first time was an OOC exile but the second one, which was actually last week, was on a 9-day old character who looted a neutral realm's city. I don't know why the Assassins didn't just ban me - I can still argue and make them very mad at me.

[Anaris]

Seems to me that spite is more than enough reason to stick around in a situation like that.

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Well it's not my character that's doing nothing but talking smack, so to each his own.

[DoctorHarte]

Well it's not my character that's doing nothing but talking smack, so to each his own.

Thanks.. he is doing more than that but I didn't mention it on here to ruin the whole plot?

[songqu88@gmail.com]

My post was meant for the general public, but if it applies to you, then...good that you enjoy making the ruler lose H/P?

[DoctorHarte]

My post was meant for the general public, but if it applies to you, then...good that you enjoy making the ruler lose H/P?

Oh definitely. But he really doesn't lose much H/P every turn. It would take over 3-4 months for it to hurt.. probably even more?

[songqu88@gmail.com]

Depends on what the ruler does, and his initial H/P. For a theocracy ruler priest, that might be pretty awful because they might not have particularly high H/P and there isn't much they can do if they're not a lord or judge to regain any.