And I tried to negotiate with Lyoness, but Lyoness refused negotiate as long as our army were on their lands and lowered relations to neutral, it was clear sign that peace between us was over. You had promised free passage to Cagilan Empire and wanted Darka out from your lands. It was too much. Lyoness had survive and even doing good just because they had been good for Darka. If they had tried to enforce treaty of Hawthorne and block our passage, they would have dead long time ago. It was essential for both realms survival that we co-operate, suddenly Lyoness stopped to co-operate, vice versa, they started to co-operate with the enemy. Lyoness had to be taken care, they had become threat to Darkan survival. Which is sad, i really thought we both had similar view that CE is the Devil, after all it had humiliated your "mother" realm badly... but then again, new leadership of Lyoness had no clue how Lyoness was created. Lyoness were taken over by former Minas Ithilians. Which i didnt mind back then, we had good going from beginning, until you started to toy around with CE and ignore us.
Sorry, I have to respond to this.
Jaune, can you please stop repeating the same point? We've moved past that
ages ago. I've been intentionally wording my responses to
accept that point and ask something new. Let me simplify what I had said in my last post:
YES, Darka was stuck in negotiation.
YES, it was probably Queen Raziella's fault (I can't say, I wasn't part of the negotiation).
NO, that does not mean we suddenly pledged our undying allegiance to the CE.
What you don't seem to understand (incapable or unwilling, who
really cares) is that you could have backed off, taken the black eye, and solved it before the CE came back again... leaving the door open for an alliance with Lyonesse. Instead, you chose to tell Lyonesse it wasn't allowed to have its own needs (we lowered relations
after you threatened to murder everyone in the region),
told us we were now allies of the CE, and cut off our legs (or whatever body parts help this analogy).
And then, after all that, you want to complain that it's Darka vs. the world? It's one or the other, buddy. You don't stab the guy next to you and expect to have a bunch of new friendships.
Now to catch up with all those posts in between... My original call was for fully locked borders. If I recall correctly, both sides wanted to negotiate, so it's not really a fair point. Enri doesn't comment here much anymore, but if he did, he'd tell you how pissed he was at Ravendon... He even tried to claim that because Lyonesse had let Darka through 6000 times during the supposed term of the Treaty of Hawthorne, the no passage rights term would just begin right then. It's sad to know now that I shouldn't have bothered; I thought I'd made a major win for Darka.
I also don't know if you've ever tried doing absolutely nothing... Even if you're good at it, which I would agree Lyonesse was (Ravendon even sent a letter today saying that...), it's not exactly fun. In fact, we'd have likely died one of those slow, painful, absentee realm deaths. Our members were going to be a problem on either extreme: Massive boredom or interesting chaotic risks. On an OOC level, I'd hope that choice is obvious.
Lyonesse became a Theocratic realm when we lost Hawthorne. Sale was made a Theocratic Duchy when Ravendon took the Duke title, though I didn't get a say... On an OOC level, I've just rolled with it because I've never really paid attention to religion in this game. Had to give it a shot once. Raziella's the primary driver there, though it did get interesting when the Darkanism channel erupted.
