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Title: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 20, 2012, 06:26:33 AM
QuoteBattle in Unger   (just in)
Netherworld vs. Fronen, Melhed, Old Grehk, Thalmarkin
Estimated strengths: 160 men vs. 3200 men
The Wolf Legion (Melhed), sponsored by Marc de Coivos, Duke of Fronepu, Margrave of Fronepu, were led into battle by Marshal Black Dragon Master.
The Grehkian Legion (Old Grehk), sponsored by Sir Marcus T. Turner, Margrave of Vozzessdor, were led into battle by Marshal Iscee Plaraveen.
The Legion of the Wolf (Thalmarkin), sponsored by Fingolfin Noldorin, King of Thalmarkin, were led into battle by Marshal Yusklin Melphrydd.
The Eagles of Hope (Thalmarkin), sponsored by Dunbor Lorganson, Duke of Unger, Margrave of Unger, were led into battle by Marshal Cataryna Bowker.
Yorick Sypher, Duke of Vur Hagin, Senator of Xhahgus, Marshal of the Esercito del Drago d'Oro is spotted wearing the Mysterious Vest of Strength.
Sir Nidor Lionheart, Lord Treasurer of Old Grehk, Duke of Ossmat is spotted wearing the Battered Vest of the Maiden.
Aurelius Madigan (Knight of Orde) is spotted wearing the Black Suit of the Dragons.
Sir Soren Calanar, Consul of Melhed is spotted wearing the Gem of Fire.
Lady Rila Nabarl (Dame of Jedinchel) is spotted wielding the Black Broadsword.
Overlord has been killed by Pyrix's unit.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAH! GLORY TO THE NORTH!

I'll start drawing up the plans for the victory parade.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on June 20, 2012, 06:29:00 AM
Quote
Foreign Leave   (5 minutes ago)
Overlord was killed during a battle in Unger.

I enjoyed seeing this immensely  :D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Noldorin on June 20, 2012, 06:47:42 AM
Are the blighted daimons and midnights still around? They left Thalmarkin yesterday so cant really check myself. Not really sure how to write the letters around this since Im not 100% sure he is dead and really gone, or perhaps if the whole invasion has been stopped, so some info would be great :D

But yeah, Huzzaahh!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on June 20, 2012, 07:09:26 AM
Midnight of the South is still in there. My bet is that he'll take over him and we'll have Darkest Hour of the South plus Overlord.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on June 20, 2012, 07:13:01 AM
Blight creatures still in Ippetimbal, Fronen.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on June 20, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: Noldorin on June 20, 2012, 06:47:42 AM
Are the blighted daimons and midnights still around? They left Thalmarkin yesterday so cant really check myself. Not really sure how to write the letters around this since Im not 100% sure he is dead and really gone, or perhaps if the whole invasion has been stopped, so some info would be great :D

But yeah, Huzzaahh!

I believe there is a Blight Daimon commander sitting in Vatrona at present.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Noldorin on June 20, 2012, 08:09:31 AM
So, we are about to find out if he can take over more than his sons bodies then... I know what I would prefer :p
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Arrakis on June 20, 2012, 08:50:59 AM
Here comes Overlord II!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on June 20, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
Ermm..think thats Overlord III, that was the 2nd incarnation of him that we just killed  8)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 20, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_triumph)

Just a suggestion  ;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 20, 2012, 10:22:16 AM
Ha! Acclamation and applaus from the south! This is the best news we have had in ages. All hail Thalmarkin, Melhed and Old Grehk! THAT is an achievement that will be remembered...I assume that Pyrix will not have a chance to remain sober for the rest of his life.

I now go back to nailbiting, awaiting both news of Overlords resurrection and the outcome of the battle against Midnight. I try to convince myself that shorter fingers do look attractive.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 01:28:10 PM
These are great news indeed.

I am trying to get everyone in Nothoi to go deal with the demons in Ippetimbal, but we should get some time until Overlor III appears.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
There are no sons anymore, so unless he pulls out a new trick (like switching bodies with a midnight), Overlord is dead and gone. :)

Though I would've expected the blight to lift when he died... maybe it still needs to happen or maybe he's going to make an ultimate comeback after all. :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Charles on June 20, 2012, 02:00:48 PM
Daimons still in Melhed.  I do not think this thing is over quite yet.  I also was expecting some sort of RP from Tom to get a hint about what happened and what the effect will be.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 20, 2012, 02:04:15 PM
It's good news, but... It ain't the first time we think we've killed Overlord. I'd wait a bit before parading so much...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: vonGenf on June 20, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
Quote from: Charles on June 20, 2012, 02:00:48 PM
Daimons still in Melhed.  I do not think this thing is over quite yet.  I also was expecting some sort of RP from Tom to get a hint about what happened and what the effect will be.

It happened less than 12 hours ago. Give it some time....
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 20, 2012, 02:09:37 PM
All I know is, I think I'm ready for it to be over.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 03:03:47 PM
I think everyone is...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 20, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
Honestly, just getting everyone in the right place on time was enough of a challenge. Between Thalmarkin having to refit and recruit with their capital under siege and the rest of us having to coordinate movement of 50 odd nobles from 3 different realms with travel times of up to 30 hours from Jedinchel to Unger, we had some work to do. I'm rather proud of how it all turned out even if Overlord gets back up.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on June 20, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
Quote from: vonGenf on June 20, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
It happened less than 12 hours ago. Give it some time....

QFT: From what we've seen before it usually takes another turn change for some blight to  be lifted.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
It will probably be lifted when we manage to kill all blight daimons and the  Midnight general on the south
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 20, 2012, 04:42:17 PM
Or may be it won't be lifted at all? Vur Hagin is still blighted, though as I recall Midnight of the East is also still alive somewhere. I'd be surprised if Tom de-blighted the entire island. Though, can you imagine the race that will result if he does? It will be chaos! Chaos I tell you!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
This was meant to hapen soner or later. If it was posible for Overlord to die twice in one battle at Pontamin, then there is no reason why it couldn't hapen in Unger.
Hope something intresting hapens soon. Either they apoint a new ruler or everything goes puff including the blight.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on June 20, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
Don't worry, I'm here and things will happen. The silence is intentional.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 05:39:21 PM
Quote from: Tom on June 20, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
Don't worry, I'm here and things will happen. The silence is intentional.

^ This sure is scary. :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 05:39:21 PM
^ This sure is scary. :P
Unpleasent suprise maybe.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Shizzle on June 20, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
Sure sounds like it. My money is on a Midnight ascending to Overlordship, or a new reincarnation of the Overlord through sacrifice.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 07:42:17 PM
I think I just saw Overlord in the mesage groups just now. :o
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Shizzle on June 20, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Roleplay from Overlord   (40 minutes ago)
QuoteMessage sent to the Rulers of Beluaterra (8 recipients)

Impossible!

How could you destroy my mortal shell, when I was feasting on your peasants. Thousands have died at my hand, I should have been immortal. The field of battle is yours, humans. And yet you will suffer. The gates are closing, but with them your chance to salvage what is left of your lands. You already know you need to slay my minions to break open the Blight, and the Blight Daimons to drive it back. You knew that and yet you did not act on it. Now the clock is ticking. When the gates are sealed, the Blight will be stabilized.

It is said it takes 30 days to seal the gates. Whatever you have not managed to free by then will be forever lost to your race and dragged into the Netherworld for all eternity.

A good idea, kudos Tom!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 08:05:53 PM
Extremly evil. :-\
Well, the rulers should let us know in game.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 08:34:17 PM
So now the hunt for the daimons begin
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
Let's hope the semi blight does not become actual blight. Also, do the unblighted regions belonging to netherworld get blighted when this is over?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
I hope not.

And we need to deal with the BLight Daimons to end the semi blight...even with that, we'll have a rough time when fighting.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on June 20, 2012, 08:49:24 PM
Perhaps they will get weaker as the doors between worlds close.

I hope at least.

I also hope we only have to kill the commanders once now, instead of several times.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
Maybe this time limit will wake some of the more... lazy realms up.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 20, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
Quote from: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
Maybe this time limit will wake some of the more... lazy realms up.
I belive Sint is oblivious to this at the moment.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on June 20, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
Quote from: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
Maybe this time limit will wake some of the more... lazy realms up.

I hope that too...I don't want to change realms, but i might...Nothoi some times get boring and tiresome...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 20, 2012, 09:36:32 PM
Ha! You will never wake up Sint from our eternal slumber!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 20, 2012, 09:44:42 PM
Everyone thought no one could wake Melhed from their eternal slumber.

Anyway, Thalmarkin will hunt the northern blight daimon with OG to free the northern regions. I doubt Riombara can defeat their Midnight to free the south. He is leading the biggest army of the remaining daimons.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Antonine on June 20, 2012, 10:15:18 PM
Well, on the plus side, if we fail to lift the Blight then Thalmarkin will become the new superpower of Beluaterra :p
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 20, 2012, 10:16:34 PM
And Riombara a powerful appendix. Talk about being cut off    ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on June 20, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
Oh snap is Sandefur unlocked?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 20, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
It has been since Darkest Hour of the West was killed. (or maybe it was because of the blight daimon who we killed the same day)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on June 20, 2012, 10:43:34 PM
One more bump of the grid and we might unlock Lin Helon and Nuzanki too.

Aww, Nuzanki. *Sigh, pours out a 40 for the dead heroes.*
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on June 20, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
I should be happy, but some stupid Druid stole my dinner...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 21, 2012, 12:01:05 AM
Quote from: Thunthorn on June 20, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
I should be happy, but some stupid Druid stole my dinner...

LOL. Get it back from Lorgan. I am sure he will give you the heart ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 21, 2012, 12:09:19 AM
Quote from: Thunthorn on June 20, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
I should be happy, but some stupid Druid stole my dinner...

Hah, yeah... I suppose you should've repeated it as much as I did about my horns! Gonna enjoy drinking from those for sure. :)

I don't have your heart though, this whole thing is kind of awkward... :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on June 21, 2012, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on June 21, 2012, 12:01:05 AM
LOL. Get it back from Lorgan. I am sure he will give you the heart ;)

No, its more fun this way. I am already plotting to hire adventurers to steal the heart for me.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Velax on June 21, 2012, 06:30:22 AM
Quote from: Thunthorn on June 21, 2012, 12:20:05 AM
No, its more fun this way. I am already plotting to hire adventurers to steal the heart for me.

Up until now, it sounded like a sweet love story. But this bit lost me.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Draco Tanos on June 21, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
He wants to devour Overlord's mortal heart.  Assuming the body had one.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 21, 2012, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: Draco Tanos on June 21, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
He wants to devour Overlord's mortal heart.  Assuming the body had one.

Good point. Did he even have a heart? or maybe he had hearts?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on June 21, 2012, 10:00:30 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on June 21, 2012, 08:59:44 AM
Good point. Did he even have a heart? or maybe he had hearts?

We were discussing on IRC, after reading that Netherworld forces were Raping, Burning and Pillaging, if Daimons might have tentacles.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Draco Tanos on June 21, 2012, 10:53:15 AM
Some of the breeds likely do...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Shizzle on June 21, 2012, 01:39:35 PM
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going ...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 21, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
Man...

I really don't want to play on a tiny almost-fully-blighted Beluaterra for a few more years...

Yet we don't really have enough nobles to make unblighting all of it really viable, either.

I really wish Beluaterra would fall in glorious battle. :(
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on June 21, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 21, 2012, 01:59:58 PM
Man...

I really don't want to play on a tiny almost-fully-blighted Beluaterra for a few more years...

Yet we don't really have enough nobles to make unblighting all of it really viable, either.

I really wish Beluaterra would fall in glorious battle. :(

Translation:

"Enweil's screwed, so I don't see why the rest of the continent should get to survive! I blame Riombara."

;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 21, 2012, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: Anaris on June 21, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Translation:

"Enweil's screwed, so I don't see why the rest of the continent should get to survive! I blame Riombara."

;D

Nah, I'd have the same opinion had Rio been destroyed and Enweil remained untouched.

The main thing I liked about Beluaterra is the opportunities present in post-invasion contexts. However, after the last invasion, and possibly this one, there are none. The borders are fixed. There are no significant unclaimed areas. No colonization can occur. No new neighbors can appear.

Rio is much more obsessed with Enweil than the other way around. We'd have been fine to ignore Riombara for the last few years, really.

(And we aren't screwed yet!)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on June 21, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 21, 2012, 02:17:17 PM
Rio is much more obsessed with Enweil than the other way around. We'd have been fine to ignore Riombara for the last few years, really.

That's probably true, but I think Riombara does have some justification beyond the induced moral outrage: not always, but a lot of the time, Enweil has controlled both of Riombara's avenues to the rest of the continent. Given that Enweil has never, in the past 7 years or so, been exactly friendly towards Riombara, that causes what I think is an understandable desire to see the situation changed. By whatever means.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 21, 2012, 04:10:04 PM
And currently the hostility within Riombara towards Enweil is rather non-existent. As long as Enweil does not actively alienate Riombara I see very little chance of any hostilities...contrary, I think that a good part of Riombara would be quite in favor to help Enweil regain a capital, followed by good relations afterwards. The only chance to really destroy enweil-rio relations lies with Enweils current chancellor and his history of pro-riombaran tendencies    ;)

And regarding a small Beluaterra: lets hope that a good number of regions become unblighted (if we manage to hunt down the daimons that is...), then I foresee more than enough options. I for my part am glad that we do not have to go through the 'all realms have been reduced to 1-3 regions, lets repopulate the continent, taking 6-8 months, THEN engage in any diplomacy again' but can enter the next age with somewhat functioning infrastructure and common borders.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 21, 2012, 04:24:50 PM
His voice probably doesn't hold much value anymore but Mithridates sure is against all this buddybuddying towards Enweil.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on June 21, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
Felicie was completely supportive of helping Enweil out, during and after the invasion, but the Cheniers have managed to convince her otherwise.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 21, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: JPierreD on June 21, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
Felicie was completely supportive of helping Enweil out, during and after the invasion, but the Cheniers have managed to convince her otherwise.

No plural, he only spoke with one.

And the only thing he did was accuse him of ridiculous things. Because obviously if anyone benefited from the Invasion, it's Enweil and the Chénier family, right?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on June 21, 2012, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 21, 2012, 02:17:17 PM
The main thing I liked about Beluaterra is the opportunities present in post-invasion contexts. However, after the last invasion, and possibly this one, there are none. The borders are fixed. There are no significant unclaimed areas. No colonization can occur. No new neighbors can appear.

A couple regions that had been blighted for over a year have already re-appeared.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 21, 2012, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Tom on June 21, 2012, 11:23:36 PM
A couple regions that had been blighted for over a year have already re-appeared.

And if we work hard enough and fast enough to kill the rest of the buggers, we can presumably un-blight more.

I just hope we don't have to kill both the Midnights and then take on their Darkest Hour successors as well. It will be have been hard enough as it is to take down Midnight of the South. If he reincarnates the next day as Darkest Hour with a new batch of horrors, Riombara is totally screwed.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on June 22, 2012, 01:11:41 AM
Quote from: Chénier on June 21, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
No plural, he only spoke with one.

And the only thing he did was accuse him of ridiculous things. Because obviously if anyone benefited from the Invasion, it's Enweil and the Chénier family, right?

But the actions of both arrived to her ears.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 22, 2012, 02:40:51 AM
Quote from: Tom on June 21, 2012, 11:23:36 PM
A couple regions that had been blighted for over a year have already re-appeared.

Unfortunately there's not much I can do to speed that up. Didn't really understand Overlord's RP, either, though I might have been missing context.

Quote from: JPierreD on June 22, 2012, 01:11:41 AM
But the actions of both arrived to her ears.

No, because the lies of Overlord reached you and you willingly covered your eyes in order to make them believable.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 22, 2012, 09:56:42 AM
No need to rely on lies...the rabit enmity of the Cheniers towards Riombara (and towards Sint and others) has been displayed more than often enough. Sassan had a lot of contacts with a host of other nobles during the invasion - most helpful, some indifferent. The only ones continously and openly hostile, no matter the topic, were the Cheniers. When offering help - open scorn. When asking for information - silence or insults. When trying to cooperate - excuses. So far Sassan did not have a single, constructive, contact with them. He now considers both Cheniers as mad - and willing to do /anything/ to destroy Riombara, even including seeing Enweil destroyed if that would be what it takes.

Note that I as player am very glad that the Cheniers exist. My characters are the usual run of 'basically good with a few quirks' of which there are far too many. Having someone as the Cheniers in this game is certainly enriching. We could use more of these varieties.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lefanis on June 22, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
Midnight of the South has been killed by Folcard's unit.

Meridian Republic strikes again!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 22, 2012, 06:27:12 PM
Did his army dissolve as well?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 22, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on June 22, 2012, 09:56:42 AM
No need to rely on lies...the rabit enmity of the Cheniers towards Riombara (and towards Sint and others) has been displayed more than often enough. Sassan had a lot of contacts with a host of other nobles during the invasion - most helpful, some indifferent. The only ones continously and openly hostile, no matter the topic, were the Cheniers. When offering help - open scorn. When asking for information - silence or insults. When trying to cooperate - excuses. So far Sassan did not have a single, constructive, contact with them. He now considers both Cheniers as mad - and willing to do /anything/ to destroy Riombara, even including seeing Enweil destroyed if that would be what it takes.

Note that I as player am very glad that the Cheniers exist. My characters are the usual run of 'basically good with a few quirks' of which there are far too many. Having someone as the Cheniers in this game is certainly enriching. We could use more of these varieties.

Yea, well, it was hard to want Rio's help when every time they came, they did more harm to the realm than good and when they showed every sign of wanted to siege our city instead of really helping.

I do indeed play very dogmatic and ideological characters, though. Zealous, uncompromising. Guillaume never cared much for PR, and that is hurting him, but that's just how things go. I've got Machiavel for when I want to care for PR. ;)

However, Fheuv'n had a lot of good reasons to distrust Riombara. It isn't a coincidence that while he accepted to lift the declaration of hatred with Sint, he ended up declaring war on Riombara once more after the initial peace. Indeed, I would say that in this invasion, Riombara was the dirtiest. Sint broke it's trend of doing everything they could to earn that title. Fheuv'n did not speak nice, but was the first one to promote unity. And unlike Riombara, they never sent armies, infiltrators, and priests against any human realm.

Yes, Fheuv'n barked a lot, and the attitude may have been a little counter-productive (but not that much: we were too far for anyone other than Enweil to be able to help us without seriously exposing themselves and we were too busy with daimons and monster attacks on us to be able to send any more help than we did), but Riombara is the only realm that I know of that actively hurt other human realms.

And Sassan's confused about the Chénier clan. :P

Guillaume (and his predecessors) never really had Riombara as a priority. Nicolas wanted to annex most of Riombara, and destroy the rest, but that was a means to an end (not having Riombara continuously attack Enweil every chance they get) rather than an end in itself. The focus was always the spread of Enweil's influence towards the North-West, towards Sint. If there was an obsession, it was with Sint much more than Riombara. But Sint was too far away and Riombara always gave an excuse to be pissed at them about. Louis-Joseph had a religious agenda, in which his goal was to convert the whole continent to the Blood Cult, but Nicolas (and to a lesser degree Guillaume) have a much more nationalistic imperial agenda: the spread of Enweili civilization. With Avalon, Fheuv'n, Luz de Bia, and Bara'Khur no more, the bastions of Enweili civilization are fading. He does indeed care for Enweil quite a lot, because it is the original Enweili realm. To go to Fronen or Nothoi would dillute the political "purity", as per the religious tenants that the gods chose the colonists of Enweilieos (i.e. the closer to that first colonisation, the purer the realm is: Enweil was first degree, Fheuv'n and Avalon were second degree, Fronen and Bara'Khur were third degree, Nothoi is fourth degree). If Enweil dies, no more second-degree realms will ever be possible, and the source will be lost.

Guillaume cares quite a bit more for Enweil than you would think. He wouldn't be offering alliances to everyone otherwise. ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on June 22, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
well.. it had 2 melee (84,118) and 1 ranged (420).. we killed the melee outright in the battle... the ranged was down to ~164 at the end of the battle (which the daimons won)...

no daimons around afterwards..

meh... my 80 sf unit as usual deals lots of damage (1.5k, 800, 1k)... but take way too much.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 22, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
Yeh gods, Chenier...'in this invasion Riombara was the dirtiest'...that IS quite impressive.

It must be quite an ongoing effort to keep trying to turn the aid we gave to Enweil - and IVF - into something negative....sigh. If IVF had invested a quarter of the effort we did invest on behalf of Enweil, directly aiding them - or to aid /anyone/ Sassan would have been content. (I know, I know....monsters kept the IVF army at home. For months....). Try asking any enweilian general whose help they would prefer if they'd have to choose.

Considering how much effort you spend to vilify what Hvrek did (whom we ended up hunting to kill for /trying/ to secretly entering into a deal with the daimons) one should point out that Hvrek did /far/ less than Guillaume openly tried to do (gain the last region of Enweil and thus be spared by the daimons). I'd like to see you employ the same standard for Guillaumes actions....   ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 22, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
On a different topic - more related to 'victory' - Midnight of the South has been slain. We'll now find out if the dreaded 'Darkest Hour of the South' will appear. If not then it will be a pleasure to send a rebuilt riombaran army towards the closest daimon. I estimate we could range as far as Dyomoque (15 regions) but could not remain on station long. Gathering 4 weeks supplies before leaving will be a challenge considering all our reserves are now depleted. Still, would be an epic march...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on June 22, 2012, 09:19:05 PM
If midnight doesn't reappear, then some regions should be un-blighted and the rush will be on in the south.

Either way, good times ahead.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 22, 2012, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on June 22, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
Yeh gods, Chenier...'in this invasion Riombara was the dirtiest'...that IS quite impressive.

It must be quite an ongoing effort to keep trying to turn the aid we gave to Enweil - and IVF - into something negative....sigh. If IVF had invested a quarter of the effort we did invest on behalf of Enweil, directly aiding them - or to aid /anyone/ Sassan would have been content. (I know, I know....monsters kept the IVF army at home. For months....). Try asking any enweilian general whose help they would prefer if they'd have to choose.

Considering how much effort you spend to vilify what Hvrek did (whom we ended up hunting to kill for /trying/ to secretly entering into a deal with the daimons) one should point out that Hvrek did /far/ less than Guillaume openly tried to do (gain the last region of Enweil and thus be spared by the daimons). I'd like to see you employ the same standard for Guillaumes actions....   ;)

Actually, no. Hvrek wanted to actively destroy Enweil against their will. Guillaume just offered reunification as a ploy to screw over the daimons, but not with the intent of sitting back. And do keep in mind that the alternative was Enweil submitting to the daimons and building one of their temples. I'm pretty sure we'd have all been better off had they accepted to merge with Fheuv'n.

Did Rio fight the daimons? Yes. Every single realm did. But Rio also sent armies against human realms. They used religion to sabotage Enweil and Fheuv'n. They sent infiltrators against Fheuv'n on multiple occasions. These was not the acts of 1 man.

No human realm, that I know of, acted against another human realm. Except for Riombara.

As for effort, Rio has a ton of cities, some of them quite big and wealthy. Fheuv'n had a crap city, and that was all. Our full military might, most of the time, was under 4000 CS. And we fought daimons every second week or so. It's not because you weren't called to help that we weren't busy fighting daimons ourselves.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 22, 2012, 10:49:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Rio v. Eweil has been banished to its own thread...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 22, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: Indirik on June 22, 2012, 10:49:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Rio v. Eweil has been banished to its own thread...

The longer a discussion goes on, the odds of a Belu thread revolving around Enweil/Rio approaches 1.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 22, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
Not Enweil / Rio....rather Chenier accusing Rio    ;D. I'll simply stop trying to disprove slander...if I manage to discipline myself to do this then peace should reign  8).

Note that killing Midnight was one of the most satisfying moments of BM in all my years of playing. Having that machine of destruction march ever nearer to our capital while trying to formulate a strategy that would give us a chance to survive will remain a very good memory for a long time to come. My thanks go to Tom and the devs who have made both this game and this invasion possible.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 22, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on June 22, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
Not Enweil / Rio....rather Chenier accusing Rio    ;D. I'll simply stop trying to disprove slander...if I manage to discipline myself to do this then peace should reign  8).

Note that killing Midnight was one of the most satisfying moments of BM in all my years of playing. Having that machine of destruction march ever nearer to our capital while trying to formulate a strategy that would give us a chance to survive will remain a very good memory for a long time to come. My thanks go to Tom and the devs who have made both this game and this invasion possible.

The only slander are the accusations that I made some kind of deals with the daimons, for I did not.

I did not say that Riombara did no good act, nor that it did not overall do good, but that they were the only ones to do dirty acts.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on June 23, 2012, 12:23:11 AM
Everyone involved, please stop turning every topic into an Enweil/Chenier/IVF/Riombara/etc mudslinging contest.

Restrict that stuff to their own topics.

Moderators, you are strongly encouraged to mercilessly moderate away all those postings from now on.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 23, 2012, 02:55:18 AM
Quote from: Chénier on June 22, 2012, 10:45:00 PM
Actually, no. Hvrek wanted to actively destroy Enweil against their will. Guillaume just offered reunification as a ploy to screw over the daimons, but not with the intent of sitting back. And do keep in mind that the alternative was Enweil submitting to the daimons and building one of their temples. I'm pretty sure we'd have all been better off had they accepted to merge with Fheuv'n.

Did Rio fight the daimons? Yes. Every single realm did. But Rio also sent armies against human realms. They used religion to sabotage Enweil and Fheuv'n. They sent infiltrators against Fheuv'n on multiple occasions. These was not the acts of 1 man.

No human realm, that I know of, acted against another human realm. Except for Riombara.

As for effort, Rio has a ton of cities, some of them quite big and wealthy. Fheuv'n had a crap city, and that was all. Our full military might, most of the time, was under 4000 CS. And we fought daimons every second week or so. It's not because you weren't called to help that we weren't busy fighting daimons ourselves.

What infils? And what armies? I think the one battle was basically a miscommunication if I remember right, and happened mostly because someone refused to increase relations. I don't recall any infil attacks at all. Whatever happened, it wasn't realm policy.

Also, you're forgetting how Old Grehk assaulted Vozzessdor after the daimons had already shown up. And how they tried to pull a fast one by taking Wudenkin while Fronen was sending armies south to help Enweil and Riombara.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 23, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
It is official: The death of Overlord does /not/ prevent the progression of killed daimon commanders. We have a 'Darkest Hour of the South' appearing in Rueffilo, heading north. He commands Horrors with a strength of 14.000. Riombara will engage - though we only have a chance if the Horrors are exaggerating their strength as usual...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 23, 2012, 04:29:05 PM
And we're off to the races...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 23, 2012, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on June 23, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
It is official: The death of Overlord does /not/ prevent the progression of killed daimon commanders. We have a 'Darkest Hour of the South' appearing in Rueffilo, heading north. He commands Horrors with a strength of 14.000. Riombara will engage - though we only have a chance if the Horrors are exaggerating their strength as usual...

Well, you don't need to get him first time...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on June 23, 2012, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: Iltaran on June 23, 2012, 04:54:53 PM
Well, you don't need to get him first time...

It's a gamble. You can withdraw, rebuild your army and hope to kill him in a huge battle, or engage him multiple times wearing him down. The goal doesn't change, the question is which way you'll get there faster.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: DoctorHarte on June 23, 2012, 07:05:13 PM
I wish I could unpause my other character William to join in with more of the fun. Looking forward to seeing what develops out of the blighted land we manage to recover
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 23, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
doubt we will recover that much at this rate...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on June 23, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
ha... i think i'll miss the upcoming battle, because i had to leg it to the cash machine to pay the men. forgot to pay them early and ended up with a few gold short and 8 days unpaid after the 1st battle.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on June 23, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
At least if Riombara loses they win.  They are sitting on a skinny fortress of a realm.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on June 23, 2012, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: Psyche on June 23, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
At least if Riombara loses they win.  They are sitting on a skinny fortress of a realm.

Would've been nicer to have Fwuvoghor in that realm though.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sacha on June 24, 2012, 04:05:33 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 22, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
The longer a discussion goes on, the odds of a Belu thread revolving around Enweil/Rio approaches 1.

Or as it is known outside this sub-forum: the Glaumring Principle.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lefanis on June 24, 2012, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: Lorgan on June 23, 2012, 08:22:42 PM
Would've been nicer to have Fwuvoghor in that realm though.

Nah, it's reserved for me  8)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 24, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
If reserved...then only very shortly. Very very shortly    ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Noldorin on June 24, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
Finally I feel that BT is waking up again. This victory and end of invasion is really the injection that must of us (or at least me) needed to get up the spirit again. This invasion was quite hard on the nerves since it seemed to never end, and the last months was just like a big burden.  But well, now its almost over and we see the light at the end of the tunnel, which is really inspiring. :)

Right now the main problem seems to be that most rulers are very inactive. I cant say I have been very active the last weeks or so for mentioned reasons, but aparently the rulers of Sint/Melhed/OG are still in some kind of coma. At least I have Geronus to chat with which is quite nice :) Hopefully others will wake too, unless things are going to start to look badly for the political game. Thalmarkin will need a few months of peace at least to secure all the lands we are about to free (once the damned daimons decide to let us kill them...) and let Unger grow again after Overlords killing-sprees. With only the Fronen ruler active, Thalmarkin might choose the side of our past "enemy", which in turn may damage the relations with the west... Fun fun fun!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 25, 2012, 01:22:33 AM
Sint's ruler will be stepping down in another 4 or so days. He's mostly marking time until then. But he's never been all that active.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on June 25, 2012, 01:46:06 AM
Quote from: Noldorin on June 24, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
Finally I feel that BT is waking up again. This victory and end of invasion is really the injection that must of us (or at least me) needed to get up the spirit again. This invasion was quite hard on the nerves since it seemed to never end, and the last months was just like a big burden.  But well, now its almost over and we see the light at the end of the tunnel, which is really inspiring. :)

Right now the main problem seems to be that most rulers are very inactive. I cant say I have been very active the last weeks or so for mentioned reasons, but aparently the rulers of Sint/Melhed/OG are still in some kind of coma. At least I have Geronus to chat with which is quite nice :) Hopefully others will wake too, unless things are going to start to look badly for the political game. Thalmarkin will need a few months of peace at least to secure all the lands we are about to free (once the damned daimons decide to let us kill them...) and let Unger grow again after Overlords killing-sprees. With only the Fronen ruler active, Thalmarkin might choose the side of our past "enemy", which in turn may damage the relations with the west... Fun fun fun!

And Thalmarkin becomes the new Fronen with the unblighting of two cities and a bitchin' stronghold. *Fingers crossed.*
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on June 25, 2012, 01:48:56 AM
Quote from: Noldorin on June 24, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
Finally I feel that BT is waking up again. This victory and end of invasion is really the injection that must of us (or at least me) needed to get up the spirit again. This invasion was quite hard on the nerves since it seemed to never end, and the last months was just like a big burden.  But well, now its almost over and we see the light at the end of the tunnel, which is really inspiring. :)

Right now the main problem seems to be that most rulers are very inactive. I cant say I have been very active the last weeks or so for mentioned reasons, but aparently the rulers of Sint/Melhed/OG are still in some kind of coma. At least I have Geronus to chat with which is quite nice :) Hopefully others will wake too, unless things are going to start to look badly for the political game. Thalmarkin will need a few months of peace at least to secure all the lands we are about to free (once the damned daimons decide to let us kill them...) and let Unger grow again after Overlords killing-sprees. With only the Fronen ruler active, Thalmarkin might choose the side of our past "enemy", which in turn may damage the relations with the west... Fun fun fun!

Hardly a coma, I am quite active on all my characters, I just havent said much in the rulers message group but am active :P

I imagine most if not all realms will need a healing period to recover from the damage inflicted by the Daimons.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 02:18:05 AM
Quote from: Marlboro on June 25, 2012, 01:46:06 AM
And Thalmarkin becomes the new Fronen with the unblighting of two cities and a bitchin' stronghold. *Fingers crossed.*

North vs Thalmarkin after the invasion!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: DoctorHarte on June 25, 2012, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 02:18:05 AM
North vs Thalmarkin after the invasion!

Highly doubtful. If anything, OG would try to resume their war against Fronen, except without the support of Thalmarkin, Melhed, and perhaps Nothoi considering we (Fronen) saved their asses by giving them Dyomoque
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on June 25, 2012, 05:48:01 AM
I'm hopeful that Fronen will be looked upon more favorably when this is all over. Nothoi & Fronen should have a better foundation to build a constructive relationship.

We really need to kill off Darkest hour of the East though... I want my city (Vur Hagin) back.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 25, 2012, 06:06:42 AM
Well, with the end finally apparent (and I have to agree, the Invasion started to drag on a little long), I have a renewed interest in Fronen. That discussion in another thread about where to go on BT also helped revive my interest. So now I'm back at it, trying to secure some sort of future for Fronen where not everyone hates us.  :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Draco Tanos on June 25, 2012, 06:38:39 AM
Quote from: DoctorHarte on June 25, 2012, 02:56:03 AM
Highly doubtful. If anything, OG would try to resume their war against Fronen, except without the support of Thalmarkin, Melhed, and perhaps Nothoi considering we (Fronen) saved their asses by giving them Dyomoque
The city that was going to be taken for Nothoi before and planned to be taken afterwards?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 25, 2012, 06:57:01 AM
Quote from: Draco Tanos on June 25, 2012, 06:38:39 AM
The city that was going to be taken for Nothoi before and planned to be taken afterwards?

Yes that one. If we hadn't given it to them, the realm was as good as dead. I'm hopeful that the gesture wasn't completely wasted on them.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 25, 2012, 10:42:08 AM
Dear Northern Blight Daimon,

Why wont you DIE!

Love,
Askarn
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on June 25, 2012, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Sypher on June 25, 2012, 05:48:01 AM
I'm hopeful that Fronen will be looked upon more favorably when this is all over. Nothoi & Fronen should have a better foundation to build a constructive relationship.

We really need to kill off Darkest hour of the East though... I want my city (Vur Hagin) back.

Melhed is currently finishing off Midnight of the East in Ieara. He is down to his last 30 daimons.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: Iltaran on June 25, 2012, 10:42:08 AM
Dear Northern Blight Daimon,

Why wont you DIE!

Love,
Askarn

Sigh. Now he is either going to refit or summon more of his minions. Hopefully we will just capture him.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on June 25, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Sigh. Now he is either going to refit or summon more of his minions. Hopefully we will just capture him.

He needs to spawn more overlords.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: Darksun on June 25, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
He needs to spawn more overlords.

;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 25, 2012, 07:09:11 PM
Quote from: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 03:58:21 PM
;D

Enweil needs to construct additional pylons...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 25, 2012, 07:09:11 PM
Enweil needs to construct additional pylons...

Enweil needs a nexus first :p
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 25, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Sint simply can not get organised. Our troops are all over the place. Darn it. :'(
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 25, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: mikm on June 25, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Sint simply can not get organised. Our troops are all over the place. Darn it. :'(

Why, were there more of you around than the four that made it to Vale this morning? I'd tease you more, but we put on an even poorer showing.

You know who I feel bad for? Nothoi. They got no help in that battle. Also, I am really sick of not being able to join an army.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 25, 2012, 08:04:17 PM
Yeah, Sint's military is pretty sad...   :-[

QuoteLetter from Ralina Indirik   (5 hours, 39 minutes ago)
Message sent to all members of the Arm of the Destroyer (25 recipients)
Only six of us made it to Vale? Only six?! Twenty five nobles in this army, and only six of us could be troubled to march where ordered and fight for the final defeat of the blight daimons to recover our land?

Eight of you almost made it. Too bad "almost making it" doesn't win battles.

Even worse, 12 of you couldn't be bothered to march with the army at all.

This is pathetic. This is why the armies of Sint are laughed at and scorned. You're not the Arm of the Destroyer. You're not even fit to be the Left Nostril of the Destroyer.
Lady Ralina Indirik (Dame of Keffa)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on June 25, 2012, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: Indirik on June 25, 2012, 08:04:17 PM
Yeah, Sint's military is pretty sad...   :-[

LOL
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Velax on June 25, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Is the Destroyer's Left Nostril stronger or weaker than his Right?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Bael on June 25, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
Given how little general chatter there is in Melhed, I'm quite pleased at how we have/had so many nobles mobilised and fighting. I'm impressed.

Now just to finish it. Lets hope my character makes the capture!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 26, 2012, 02:23:16 AM
@velax: that depends on whether or not he's got a cold, and if so, which side is congested at the moment.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Penchant on June 26, 2012, 06:06:22 AM
Quote from: Indirik on June 25, 2012, 08:04:17 PM
Yeah, Sint's military is pretty sad...   :-[
I really like the letter though.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 26, 2012, 02:19:12 PM
I only got two responses. One from a former general agreeing our army is pathetic, and the other from someone giving an excuse as to how they got delayed and couldn't make it.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 26, 2012, 03:10:49 PM
Quote from: Indirik on June 26, 2012, 02:19:12 PM
I only got two responses. One from a former general agreeing our army is pathetic, and the other from someone giving an excuse as to how they got delayed and couldn't make it.

In some realms the Invasion has been good for player activity, in others not so much it seems. I happen to be in two realms from opposite sides of that coin.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 27, 2012, 01:28:46 AM
Quote from: Geronus on June 26, 2012, 03:10:49 PM
In some realms the Invasion has been good for player activity, in others not so much it seems. I happen to be in two realms from opposite sides of that coin.

Sint's ruler was never known for his activity.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Charles on June 27, 2012, 02:12:21 AM
I am definitely excited about how Melhed has acted this invasion.  Hopefully we will be able to keep motivated and active.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 27, 2012, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 27, 2012, 01:28:46 AM
Sint's ruler was never known for his activity.

Don't know what you're basing that off. Benton was probably the most active ruler back when I was King of OG.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on June 27, 2012, 11:00:21 PM
Western blight daimon just won't die.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Draco Tanos on June 27, 2012, 11:00:53 PM
Benton never truly seemed to get back in the swing of things when he returned after being deported during the last invasion.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on June 29, 2012, 06:29:04 PM
poor bastard... only 2 of them (as in.. 2 units) and they got killed 4 times

Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Thorwald Brynjulvson's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on June 29, 2012, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: fodder on June 29, 2012, 06:29:04 PM
poor bastard... only 2 of them (as in.. 2 units) and they got killed 4 times

Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Thorwald Brynjulvson's unit.
Darkest Hour of the South has been killed by Evander's unit.

And that's what you get when you invade Riombara!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 29, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
Interestingly, it appears that while Ete City was unblighted upon the death of Darkest Hour, Fwuvoghor, Fengen and Enweilios remain covered. How odd.

Which daimon commanders are still alive? I know Midnight of the East is still about, and that Darkest Hour of the South and Darkest Hour of the North are both dead. Was Darkest Hour of the West killed yet?

Also, how many blight daimons have been killed? I thought that Thalmarkin killed a northern blight daimon, but I'm not sure about that.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on June 29, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
maybe it spawned from ete? though... that doesn't sound right... because it came from south into glongin when midnight was killed?

midnight was spawned from ete?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on June 29, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Quote from: Geronus on June 29, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
Interestingly, it appears that while Ete City was unblighted upon the death of Darkest Hour, Fwuvoghor, Fengen and Enweilios remain covered. How odd.

Not at all. It all makes sense if you think about it.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 29, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: Tom on June 29, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Not at all. It all makes sense if you think about it.

Mmmmm, still not following, but then again I have a very good track record of completely failing to recognize, understand or follow your clues when it comes to Invasion stuff. I think you and I think very, very differently. Like, in opposite directions much of the time  :P I would have though that the regions actually blighted by the Southern Commanders would be among the first things to be unblighted, but clearly that's not the case since Ete City wasn't even blighted by the daimons in the first place.

I suppose it could be starting with things further south and would move north with further progress made, but then why Grehk and Ete City as opposed to, say, Irombro, Eylmon and Jidington? If this is the guiding principle, the application of it seems a bit arbitrary to my mind, especially since there's a very large swathe of blighted regions even further to the south.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on June 29, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Quote from: Geronus on June 29, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
Interestingly, it appears that while Ete City was unblighted upon the death of Darkest Hour, Fwuvoghor, Fengen and Enweilios remain covered. How odd.

Which daimon commanders are still alive? I know Midnight of the East is still about, and that Darkest Hour of the South and Darkest Hour of the North are both dead. Was Darkest Hour of the West killed yet?

Also, how many blight daimons have been killed? I thought that Thalmarkin killed a northern blight daimon, but I'm not sure about that.

Tsamn
Riombara, duchy of Daimon Dominion

wtf?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 29, 2012, 11:28:45 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 29, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Tsamn
Riombara, duchy of Daimon Dominion

wtf?

Bug of some sort. It's a blighted region. I can't recall how it became associated with Riombara. We keep getting elections for its lordship though.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 30, 2012, 05:45:19 AM
It probably makes more sense when you look at it on a map.

Essentially, killing a Darkest Hour pushes the blight back "one region" in the relevant direction. Thus Rii, Rueffilo, Byr, Thromengor, Nemeno, Fymmen Otu, Ete City, Shifgrethor and Rinqen (the unblighted regions) were all along the southern border. By contrast, Fengen and Enweillos are on the eastern border; I'm not really sure how Fwovoghor will fit in.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on June 30, 2012, 07:28:32 AM
Quote from: Iltaran on June 30, 2012, 05:45:19 AM
It probably makes more sense when you look at it on a map.

Essentially, killing a Darkest Hour pushes the blight back "one region" in the relevant direction. Thus Rii, Rueffilo, Byr, Thromengor, Nemeno, Fymmen Otu, Ete City, Shifgrethor and Rinqen (the unblighted regions) were all along the southern border. By contrast, Fengen and Enweillos are on the eastern border; I'm not really sure how Fwovoghor will fit in.

Very interesting conjecture, but that doesn't explain Grehk being unblighted.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on June 30, 2012, 08:20:30 AM
Yeah, it isn't a perfect explanation unfortunately. Something similiar happened when Firbalt was unblighted after Darkest Hour of the West was killed.

My best theory is that Grehk and Firbalt were unblighted because they were closest to the south and west borders respectively. If that's correct, when DHoE is killed, Vur Hagin should be unblighted, while Ossmat and Bil Havil should be unblighted when the northern Blight Daimon is killed.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 30, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
I assume that the dark block from Fwuvoghor to Fengen and on northwards are all linked to the eastern commander - thus once MotE AND his successor DHotE are killed we'll likely see that rim unblighted (go, Melhed, go! You'll get him!). Ossmat and Vur Hagin are likely linked to the eastern line as well.

The northern and the western rim were already both unblighted, the southern rim yesterday. What I /really/ want to know is that once we kill a blight creature, will the blight receede even further? I think so.

And boy, the fact of seeing Grehk unblighted...that was moving. Combine this with being able to enter /Rueffilo/...a region that holds so much history. We can even scout Irombro now...if killing the southern Blight Creature would unblight Irombro we'll have to bring Vellos back to (re)establish a realm there.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on June 30, 2012, 02:55:43 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on June 30, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
And boy, the fact of seeing Grehk unblighted...that was moving. Combine this with being able to enter /Rueffilo/...a region that holds so much history. We can even scout Irombro now...if killing the southern Blight Creature would unblight Irombro we'll have to bring Vellos back to (re)establish a realm there.

Now, I enjoy reminiscing about Riombaran history nearly as much as you do...but can't we let it be history, and move forward now?

I mean, c'mon, if we're going to have conflicts (and we should!) let's have them be new conflicts, that we haven't fought before! ;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on June 30, 2012, 03:01:51 PM
New conflicts? When we are having such nice, firmly established ones? Wouldn't that be a waste of effort?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on June 30, 2012, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: Chénier on June 29, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Tsamn
Riombara, duchy of Daimon Dominion

wtf?
old bug.
think it went to rio when duke of unpronounceable flipped to rio, then either peasants flipped to daimons or TO'ed by daimons..  it's on the tracker somewhere
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on June 30, 2012, 03:09:33 PM
If you can get Eno back, I can make good on my family's claim to the throne of Alluran!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 01, 2012, 01:45:28 AM
Quote from: Indirik on June 30, 2012, 03:09:33 PM
If you can get Eno back, I can make good on my family's claim to the throne of Alluran!

...But why would you want to?  ;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 01, 2012, 02:21:23 AM
The original Kingdom of Alluran, fighting against Luz de Bia, Enweil, and Irombrozia all at the same time was great. One of the best times I have had in the game. I arrived on BT hours after Eno seceded, and was the second noble in the realm. I elected myself judge under the old election system with instant-elections. When Distorted stepped down I was elected ruler of all three regions. By the time my character was killed toward the end of the third invasion, both Luz de Bia and Irombrozia were dead, and we had grown to two duchies and about twelve regions. So, yeah, I'd love to start a new realm in Eno based on the original Kingdom of Alluran.

I would skip the religion, though. All three incarnations were hollow shells, used as nothing more than a private playtoy and political tool of the Psyche family.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 01, 2012, 02:23:44 AM
Quote from: Indirik on July 01, 2012, 02:21:23 AM
The original Kingdom of Alluran, fighting against Luz de Bia, Enweil, and Irombrozia all at the same time was great. One of the best times I have had in the game. I arrived on BT hours after Eno seceded, and was the second noble in the realm. I elected myself judge under the old election system with instant-elections. When Distorted stepped down I was elected ruler of all three regions. By the time my character was killed toward the end of the third invasion, both Luz de Bia and Irombrozia were dead, and we had grown to two duchies and about twelve regions. So, yeah, I'd love to start a new realm in Eno based on the original Kingdom of Alluran.

I would skip the religion, though. All three incarnations were hollow shells, used as nothing more than a private playtoy and political tool of the Psyche family.

If you ever manage to make a realm there count me in ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 01, 2012, 04:29:57 AM
Quote from: Indirik on July 01, 2012, 02:21:23 AM
The original Kingdom of Alluran, fighting against Luz de Bia, Enweil, and Irombrozia all at the same time was great. One of the best times I have had in the game. I arrived on BT hours after Eno seceded, and was the second noble in the realm. I elected myself judge under the old election system with instant-elections. When Distorted stepped down I was elected ruler of all three regions. By the time my character was killed toward the end of the third invasion, both Luz de Bia and Irombrozia were dead, and we had grown to two duchies and about twelve regions. So, yeah, I'd love to start a new realm in Eno based on the original Kingdom of Alluran.

I would skip the religion, though. All three incarnations were hollow shells, used as nothing more than a private playtoy and political tool of the Psyche family.

Neat. I only ever knew the weak, multi-account ravaged version of Alluran in my time.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 01, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
My character Dimian, the ruler of Kingdom of Alluran, died at the end of the third invasion. Killed in a battle in Avengmil, I think it was, helping defend Riombara. That was before the Dominion of Alluran split, and all the other garbage that happened there.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 01, 2012, 04:43:51 AM
Quote from: Indirik on July 01, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
My character Dimian, the ruler of Kingdom of Alluran, died at the end of the third invasion. Killed in a battle in Avengmil, I think it was, helping defend Riombara. That was before the Dominion of Alluran split, and all the other garbage that happened there.

See, that's when I showed up on BT for the first time  :)

About half way through the period between the Third and Fourth Invasions. Alluran was split in three right around that time, but my only character was in Fronen then. Evander didn't show up in Rio until after Haerthorne had managed to pull Alluran together, though they were still pretty weak and pathetic as I recall.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 01, 2012, 11:31:26 AM
The first Alluran-Riombaran alliance was a great time - difficult situation militarily, interesting politics, propaganda and all...good memories   :)

Though the friendship continued to exist, Alluran become a lot more isolationist (and somewhat ineffective) after its civil war. But at the begining of the 4th invasion came one of the turningpoints....I think these come along only quite seldom AND are often not recognized: With the monsters closing in on Eno, Riombara did march its whole army to the defense of that city - but we were exactly one halfday too late....the monsters had alreay stormed the city. We still attacked but were beaten...I am fairly confident that we could have held the city, in which case the monsters might have turned north, thus not having Alluran capitulate to the monsters and being subsequently destroyed.

Another of these points was the failed defense of Enweilios 2 monts back - if Fheuvenem would have held a day longer (as it would if it would not have switched to Enweil during the TO) Riombara would have reached Enweilios in time to defend it jointly with Enweil. This would have forced Midnight to attack lvl3 walls against 35.000 defenders. I think we would have won that battle - preventing the near destruction of Enweil and the near devastation of most of the regions between Rumannen and Ardmore. Enweil and Riombara might have hunted Midnights sucessors jointly.

Often wars are slow affairs, changes happening only slowly (assuming no internal political collaps happens to one of the factions) but every now and then a LOT turns on a single halfday. Trying to find or recognize these points as what they are is one of the rare pleasures offered by Battlemaster. I know of no other game offering this in this depth.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 02, 2012, 01:34:16 PM
North blight daimon  won't die after two battles in Lezzel.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 02, 2012, 07:38:20 PM
Early KOA was good times.  I remember when it all started.  Distorted was enemy #1 on BT, but Riombara gave him a chance.  He screwed that up, and jumped ship to another continent.  I then had Hvrek move to Riombara and keep an eye on things in the south- always loved the war between Riombara and her neighbors.  When Riombara, with old Fronen, had turned the tides of war against Luz de Bia, Distorted came back to BT in Luz, with intentions of buying their former capital, Jidington, and ceding along with about 70% of their regions.  Riombara never could confirm a good time frame, so the opportunity passed itself up.  Then, Distorted, an infiltrator, walked on down to Eno, stabbed the duke, bought the duchy, and formed KOA with Eno, Brovyl, and Xween.


The next invasion saw Fronen and Luz both destroyed, and KOA just rolled right into Luz lands.  I remember when Distorted was elected as Duke of Jidington, taxes hadn't been collected in some time, so the ruined city paid him months worth of back taxes in the thousands.  He used some to rebuild the city, and the leftovers to improve the infrastructure of OoA, and continued to expand into old Luz lands with RTOs.  I remember at one point he was both Duke/Lord of Jidington, and Lord of Kuugl.  The crappy thing about that bug, though, was that you got region commands for whatever the more recent position was.

Good times, though.  I'd love to see that again.  I actually have Distorted lurking around just north of there as an advy now.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on July 04, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
The Southern Blight Daimon has been executed.

Hopefully, this now means that the last of the Daimon leaders to menace the South is gone.

Surprisingly, this makes Riombara the first realm to finally end the line of Daimons responsible for its quarter of the continent, despite the fact that we had not yet slain our Midnight when Overlord was killed.

I look forward to seeing what emerges from the Blight with this execution...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on July 04, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
Hopefully nothing and the southern blight will disappear.

Now if we could just coordinate better and deal with the demons on the north
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 04, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Anaris on July 04, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
The Southern Blight Daimon has been executed.

Hopefully, this now means that the last of the Daimon leaders to menace the South is gone.

Surprisingly, this makes Riombara the first realm to finally end the line of Daimons responsible for its quarter of the continent, despite the fact that we had not yet slain our Midnight when Overlord was killed.

I look forward to seeing what emerges from the Blight with this execution...

I think there will be another one. I'm not positive, but didn't Thalmarkin kill a northern Blight Daimon already (resulting in several regions being unblighted)? And now there's another one, is there not? Or am I wrong about that?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 04, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
No, the northern and western Blight Creatures are still alive. There is a nice overview of active daimons on the wiki - fifth invasion, timeline.

Thalmarkin did kill two darkest hours (west and north) in one battle (if I recall correctly) which led to the northern and western blight-rim to be uhm...unblighted (that has to be one of the ugliest wordmashs I know...).
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 04, 2012, 05:15:08 PM
Rio and Thal > Everyone else 8)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 04, 2012, 05:24:43 PM
Naw, Thal still reigns supreme. Killing Overlord we simply can't match. Combined with Fingolfins suicidal taunting, especially as he actually /did/ what he boasted about. Nope, can't match that, as much as I'd like.  :'(
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on July 04, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on July 04, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
Thalmarkin did kill two darkest hours (west and north) in one battle (if I recall correctly) which led to the northern and western blight-rim to be uhm...unblighted (that has to be one of the ugliest wordmashs I know...).

We killed Darkest Hour of the North during the initial siege of the capitals. The first Blight Daimon was executed and the Darkest Hour of the West killed in battle against allied forces in Jedinchel that same day.

Quote from: Geronus on July 04, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
I think there will be another one. I'm not positive, but didn't Thalmarkin kill a northern Blight Daimon already (resulting in several regions being unblighted)? And now there's another one, is there not? Or am I wrong about that?

It's pretty hard to tell but considering that Sandefur also unblighted, the Blight Daimon's death was probably partially responsible for the regions that were unblighted that day.

Quote from: Tan_Serrai on July 04, 2012, 05:24:43 PM
Naw, Thal still reigns supreme. Killing Overlord we simply can't match. Combined with Fingolfins suicidal taunting, especially as he actually /did/ what he boasted about. Nope, can't match that, as much as I'd like.  :'(

Damn that taunting! 't was all fun and games until he killed half of our population...

Anyway... hooray for the execution of the Southern Blight Daimon! I never thought that if I went away for 5-6 days I'd find the darkest hour dead and the southern blight daimon awaiting his execution. :P
I was pretty much expecting the northern blight daimon to be dead though... *cracks whip*
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 04, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
Uhhh...'reload' is your friend. Especially if applied to the political map right now....
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 04, 2012, 06:45:54 PM
So, we advanced one region into the blight, freeing three cities, but there are still blighted regions. Wonder if another Daimon commander will appear. I'm conflicted about it: while it's true that it would give us the chance to take Eno, the largest city of the island, we are barely standing on our legs. Not sure how much more we can take.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lefanis on July 04, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
You don't have to take it... Just free it of blight.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 04, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
you sure? XD
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on July 05, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
Quote from: Psyche on July 02, 2012, 07:38:20 PM
Early KOA was good times.  I remember when it all started.  Distorted was enemy #1 on BT, but Riombara gave him a chance.  He screwed that up, and jumped ship to another continent.  I then had Hvrek move to Riombara and keep an eye on things in the south- always loved the war between Riombara and her neighbors.  When Riombara, with old Fronen, had turned the tides of war against Luz de Bia, Distorted came back to BT in Luz, with intentions of buying their former capital, Jidington, and ceding along with about 70% of their regions.  Riombara never could confirm a good time frame, so the opportunity passed itself up.  Then, Distorted, an infiltrator, walked on down to Eno, stabbed the duke, bought the duchy, and formed KOA with Eno, Brovyl, and Xween.


The next invasion saw Fronen and Luz both destroyed, and KOA just rolled right into Luz lands.  I remember when Distorted was elected as Duke of Jidington, taxes hadn't been collected in some time, so the ruined city paid him months worth of back taxes in the thousands.  He used some to rebuild the city, and the leftovers to improve the infrastructure of OoA, and continued to expand into old Luz lands with RTOs.  I remember at one point he was both Duke/Lord of Jidington, and Lord of Kuugl.  The crappy thing about that bug, though, was that you got region commands for whatever the more recent position was.

Good times, though.  I'd love to see that again.  I actually have Distorted lurking around just north of there as an advy now.

I was a young and loyal knight back then, wanting to form a colony in Grehk for my duk, naming it New Vur Hagin.

How things have changed. :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 07, 2012, 07:30:13 AM
so much for killing blight daimons...

southern Blight Daimon just popped back up in ardmore with 3 units of blight creatures.. is it going to stay dead this time (after we whack it again)? or are there more of them lurking around?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on July 07, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
Quote from: fodder on July 07, 2012, 07:30:13 AM
so much for killing blight daimons...

southern Blight Daimon just popped back up in ardmore with 3 units of blight creatures.. is it going to stay dead this time (after we whack it again)? or are there more of them lurking around?

Dude they are like pinatas filled with regions...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 07, 2012, 08:16:16 AM
here's another thought... if we whack it.. does it get rid of more blight?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 07, 2012, 08:23:37 AM
Evidence suggests that Ovujemeh, Brovyl and Bolkenia would be unblighted by killing the latest southern Daimon.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 07, 2012, 12:29:37 PM
Sigh...I had /really/ thought the southern line finished....and I was very much looking forward having Sassan march northwards. Would have been an epic march.

I think Riombara did collect enough heads, don't want another one....lets hope this new one is a lot weaker than he appears - 21.000 cs is currently not killable by Riombara. Still, we are rallying and preparing for another set of battles. Might catch up with Thalmarkin now....grin.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on July 07, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
Bolkenia is already unblighted. Next line is Eno. :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 07, 2012, 02:25:55 PM
Ovujemeh, Brovyl, Eno and Cugamir for this Daimon commander, Xween for the next.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 07, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: Marlboro on July 07, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
Dude they are like pinatas filled with regions...

Agreed! Let's keep killing them until the entire South is unblighted! Rio is going to be tapped out by the end of it (we kind of already are), but damn it will be epic to unblight all those regions.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Lorgan on July 07, 2012, 07:19:30 PM
So Thalmarkin is now officially dead broke and with no peasants left to get us enough gold for the immediate future. But at least we're victorious, right? :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 07, 2012, 10:17:52 PM
Rio is getting dangerously nearer starvation each day. I am sure that while it will be a sad event (for the loss of the land), many will cheer the closing of the portals.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Foundation on July 07, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
The portals were providing food?  L'gasp! :D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 07, 2012, 10:51:41 PM
meh.. i've said it before.. send a steward up north to buy food. assuming they have food up there.

also said it. invest in melegra if someone actually do something about the other stats.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 07, 2012, 11:06:13 PM
Quote from: Foundation on July 07, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
The portals were providing food?  L'gasp! :D

On the contrary, they are eating it. :-\
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 09, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Down goes another blight daimon.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 09, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
The battle in Keffa was really crazy. North blight daimon was wounded four times, then he was captured and finally killed- all in one battle. Finally Sint did something right.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on July 09, 2012, 10:02:02 PM
Booyah Affkat's back on the map! Still no sign of the bitchin' stronghold that would probably get overrun mere days into the Sixth Invasion though.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 10, 2012, 01:35:39 AM
Given that everyone has probably got how it works by now, I'm surprised that the western one isn't hunted down like crazy.

But I'm uploading the new map right now, some of you will be more than happy.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 10, 2012, 02:05:53 AM
Quote from: Tom on July 10, 2012, 01:35:39 AM
Given that everyone has probably got how it works by now, I'm surprised that the western one isn't hunted down like crazy.

But I'm uploading the new map right now, some of you will be more than happy.

no one cares about the western one at this point I think lol.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on July 10, 2012, 02:07:45 AM
Excellent, Ossmat is saved :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 10, 2012, 05:23:54 AM
/me hugs and squeezes his city

I missed you, I missed you, I missed you, I missed you...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 10, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 10, 2012, 02:05:53 AM
no one cares about the western one at this point I think lol.

I've noticed. We are already entering post-invasion mindsets, with people rushing to re-conquer the unblighted lands and all.

Hmm.... maybe NOW is the time to spring the undead on you all... *eg*
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Antonine on July 10, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: Tom on July 10, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
I've noticed. We are already entering post-invasion mindsets, with people rushing to re-conquer the unblighted lands and all.

Hmm.... maybe NOW is the time to spring the undead on you all... *eg*

Could we not like, get a two month breathing space so Thalmarkin can be ready to whup the world again? :p
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 10, 2012, 09:07:04 AM
Quote from: Tom on July 10, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
I've noticed. We are already entering post-invasion mindsets, with people rushing to re-conquer the unblighted lands and all.

Hmm.... maybe NOW is the time to spring the undead on you all... *eg*

Don't think we have much left in us to endure another invasion :o
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 10, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
Heh. Seeing how the daimons did attack two cities Sassan is currently quite envious - he would dearly like to see the southern blight creature attacking Rines. Most likely not going to happen though....sigh.

At least seeing another daimon slain is very good news - though I suppose that Melhed by now is quite frustrated - I am really loosing track of how often they defeated Midnight of the East. Wound count is around 14 now - still not dead. Grmpf.

And another invasion...well, if composed of harmless, furry creatures in very low numbers....I guess, yes. Otherwise....uh...rather...not. Riombaras metaphorical tongue is hanging at knee height. We'll be somewhat occupied rewinding that.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Nosferatus on July 10, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
But what do you think is going to happen with all those 'people' living in the blight once it gets unblighted?
I think there going to look for braaaaaiiiiinsss.
;)

full scale undead invasion from the recently unblighted regions, why not?
the humans realms havent got beaten enough i think.
it used to be much worse in previous invasions.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 10, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
Well, to be honest, it turned out quite differently from what I had imagined. I'd have never guessed it takes so long.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Nosferatus on July 10, 2012, 12:46:04 PM
yeah, the human realms worked really well together, that never happened before.
Thats why they stood so strong.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 10, 2012, 05:21:07 PM
The daimons could have simply hid inside the blight until the invasion ended instead of coming at us again and again.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 10, 2012, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: mikm on July 10, 2012, 05:21:07 PM
The daimons could have simply hid inside the blight until the invasion ended instead of coming at us again and again.

That would be OoC quite boring and annoying. If Tom wanted them to go defensive he could make the blight turn all into that half-blight of sorts.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 10, 2012, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on July 10, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
Heh. Seeing how the daimons did attack two cities Sassan is currently quite envious - he would dearly like to see the southern blight creature attacking Rines. Most likely not going to happen though....sigh.

yes.. get off my patch and loot someone else.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Foundation on July 10, 2012, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: Nosferatus on July 10, 2012, 12:46:04 PM
yeah, the human realms worked really well together, that never happened before.
Thats why they stood so strong.

Yep, not only did they work really well together, they complained together really well too!

jkjk!  props to those who fought well :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Antonine on July 10, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
I think the fact that we were actually fighting Tom and that he'd made it clear that whether we won or lost was down to us was quite an incentive for us to work together.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 10, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
It did feel like the enemy was holding back a lot to give us a chance A player realm with the with the mechanics available for the daimons would have been a lot more agresive, brutal.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 10, 2012, 11:37:43 PM
Quote from: mikm on July 10, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
It did feel like the enemy was holding back a lot to give us a chance A player realm with the with the mechanics available for the daimons would have been a lot more agresive, brutal.

In which realm were you?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 11, 2012, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: mikm on July 10, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
It did feel like the enemy was holding back a lot to give us a chance A player realm with the with the mechanics available for the daimons would have been a lot more agresive, brutal.

No, I did have my own recruitment limits to adhere to, for example. In some cases I needed time to rebuild my forces, or could only launch attacks from specific areas.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 11, 2012, 12:56:24 AM
Quote from: Tom on July 11, 2012, 12:04:41 AM
No, I did have my own recruitment limits to adhere to, for example. In some cases I needed time to rebuild my forces, or could only launch attacks from specific areas.
Ah interesting. So daimons weren't so mighty after all ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Foundation on July 11, 2012, 02:03:49 AM
Not unlimited or godly, but still mighty enough that if Tom really wanted to crush you and forget being balanced or fair, he probably could have. :)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 11, 2012, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: Foundation on July 11, 2012, 02:03:49 AM
Not unlimited or godly, but still mighty enough that if Tom really wanted to crush you and forget being balanced or fair, he probably could have. :)

I suspect he was periodically tempted to do so ;)

Seriously though, I think Tom did a good job of balancing the Daimons so they were scary but not unbeatable.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 11, 2012, 08:13:10 AM
 If the same rules as your normal player realm aplied, in terms of recruiting, then the forces send would be endless.
 
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on July 11, 2012, 08:48:03 AM
Quote from: mikm on July 11, 2012, 08:13:10 AM
If the same rules as your normal player realm aplied, in terms of recruiting, then the forces send would be endless.

Well the rules would have to be different since there were no Daimon Recruiting Centers as such.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on July 11, 2012, 10:47:45 AM
There was obviously mental limitations on the Daimons such as arrogance, overconfidence and fighting some battles they shouldn't have. The whole  "go for the capitals" thing. But that was pretty in character. Lots of players play their humans with similar if not the same restrictions and call it roleplaying ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Draco Tanos on July 11, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
From an IC viewpoint, the capital being overtaken should be a huge morale breaker.  In RL, historically, it was in many cases.  Be it a provincial capital to claim a region or a national capital, they are usually the goal of any military force.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 11, 2012, 12:40:04 PM
I still believe the simultaneous attacks on five capitals - and successfully taking four of them - was the most brilliant move that I made. Not in the strategic/military sense - there really wasn't much that could stand up to those horrors, and not in the short time you had. I think that at least one more capital could have been saved, but that's not the point.

The point is that it was a psychological blow to the gut. It was the point where I think most players realized that the Daimons really meant business and were not only prepared, but determined to push the humans off the island. And that unless you come up with something real good really fast, it's curtains before you really know it.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Eithad on July 11, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
The turning point was when the daimons shifted the focus to Thalmarkin. If Thalmarkin fell the island would have fallen with it. None of the other realms would have managed to put up as much of a fight as Thalmarkin did, except may Riombara but they were alone in the south. Turning Thalmarkin into the focus allowed all the human realms to gather in one place to combine their strength.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Charles on July 11, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
I disagree, I think the fact that the daimons focused on Thalmarkin allowed thalmarkin to be the focus.  Had it been on any other *active* realm it would have been there.  The only mistake (or merciful choice, or arrogant challenge) by the Daimons was to choose a central realm.  Thalmarkin was able to be helped by a number of realms.  If the Daimons had chosen Melhed, chances are only Thalmarkin and Fronen would not have made it in time, and I don't remember seeing much of Fronen. 
Don't get me wrong, Thalmarkin did a great job, but it was because of the help from allies that you still stand.  Alone and Unger would have fallen.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 11, 2012, 05:44:01 PM
Agreed.  Once Thalmarkin was chosen, the Daimons practically said, "This is where we are.  Stop cowering at home preparing for an ambush and bring it."  I do think the centralized location was a good thing for humans, but I doubt things would have been the same if say, Fronen was at bat.  Given their preinvasion politics and early invasion whining, you probably would have had a little less eagerness to throw everything to them.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 11, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
No advantage was taken by daimons despite their victories. We were given time to recuparate after the first horor attack.
They could have attacked the undefended realms after  our forces were being sent  to Thalrmakin. I saw an atempt of this in Sint, but it was no big deal. Not much damage was done and they left just like that.
This last attack in keffa by north blight daimon was really thoughtfull. It sure saved the trouble of marshing to the other side the island.

Despite all that I belive the most important factor was the fact daimon leaders can die in battle. This can basicly hapen at anytime, even with overwelming odds.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 11, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Charles on July 11, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
I disagree, I think the fact that the daimons focused on Thalmarkin allowed thalmarkin to be the focus.  Had it been on any other *active* realm it would have been there.  The only mistake (or merciful choice, or arrogant challenge) by the Daimons was to choose a central realm.  Thalmarkin was able to be helped by a number of realms.  If the Daimons had chosen Melhed, chances are only Thalmarkin and Fronen would not have made it in time, and I don't remember seeing much of Fronen. 
Don't get me wrong, Thalmarkin did a great job, but it was because of the help from allies that you still stand.  Alone and Unger would have fallen.

Well obviously. There was no single realm that could withstand the daimons alone. I was in three different realms since the invasion started and no realm was more prepared than Thalmarkin. Even then they lost in their capital against Overlord.

This invasion was much better than the last one I think. Last one was a bit confusing. Also, too many nobles dying left and right :o.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on July 11, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Despite a few annoyances I have really enjoyed the invasion most of the time. It has been a bit frustrating after Overlord's demise when we have destroyed the forces of "our" Daimon commander three times and wounded him countless times without managing to kill or capturing, but thats life in the food chain I guess.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Quote from: Thunthorn on July 11, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Despite a few annoyances I have really enjoyed the invasion most of the time. It has been a bit frustrating after Overlord's demise when we have destroyed the forces of "our" Daimon commander three times and wounded him countless times without managing to kill or capturing, but thats life in the food chain I guess.

Maybe it's your mix of troops? Thalmarkin and Riombara, the premier daimon-killing forces on the island, have employed large quantities of heavy infantry and melee special forces. I don't know what Melhed has for RCs, but I seem to recall that your premier SF recruitment center is for ranged SF.

Then again, maybe you've just been unlucky.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 11, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Plenty of infantry, no archers because they're utterly useless.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 11, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
... we don't have all that many sf down in rio. (2 centres.. max 60 recruit, 5 a day. both in avengmil...)

and the biggest sf user (yosef).. eh... never even got a scratch on them daimons (well.. ok.. maybe a small scratch in one of the earlier battles). sure he does massive hits... but just that... hits that kills the units.. and not the boss.

ps... i just mixed 22 5r middling equipment high training sf with 57 melee good equipment sf. resulting in r1 sf... will see how badly the melee dmg drops off in any upcoming battle... ran out of melee sf to recruit... (no point drafting when your stats are getting toasted by looting..)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: fodder on July 11, 2012, 10:47:38 PM
... we don't have all that many sf down in rio. (2 centres.. max 60 recruit, 5 a day. both in avengmil...)

and the biggest sf user (yosef).. eh... never even got a scratch on them daimons. sure he does massive hits... but just that... hits that kills the units.. and not the boss.

ps... i just mixed 22 5r middling equipment high training sf with 57 melee good equipment sf. resulting in r1 sf... will see how badly the melee dmg drops off in any upcoming battle... ran out of melee sf to recruit... (no point drafting when your stats are getting toasted by looting..)

We had a lot more before we lost Grehk. Those (100/70) Knights of Grehk hit like trucks. I was quite upset that we lost them.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 11, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 10:49:28 PM
We had a lot more before we lost Grehk. Those (100/70) Knights of Grehk hit like trucks. I was quite upset that we lost them.

I hear you. I only used them, but since we lost Grekh had to change the kind of unit I lead to cavalry.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 11, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
...did we even kill anything before we lost grehk? too long ago.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Quote from: fodder on July 11, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
...did we even kill anything before we lost grehk? too long ago.

Yes and no. We caught Twilight of the South (or whatever his name was) before then, since it was Midnight of the South who took it. But I'm pretty sure we captured and execute him, as opposed to killing him in battle.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 12, 2012, 12:19:09 AM
Quote from: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
Yes and no. We caught Twilight of the South (or whatever his name was) before then, since it was Midnight of the South who took it. But I'm pretty sure we captured and execute him, as opposed to killing him in battle.

I remember killing him, only to see him resurrect for newbie-protection. So perhaps we did both.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on July 12, 2012, 02:46:08 AM
Quote from: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Maybe it's your mix of troops? Thalmarkin and Riombara, the premier daimon-killing forces on the island, have employed large quantities of heavy infantry and melee special forces. I don't know what Melhed has for RCs, but I seem to recall that your premier SF recruitment center is for ranged SF.

Then again, maybe you've just been unlucky.

Almost only very heavy infantry. The Tepmona Special Rangers has not produced vey much troops since the region got shadowed. We have some range 2 SF as well but I don't think people use it. When there only was a few Daimons left I ordered away whatever ranged troops we had.

I do believe is mostly unluck, but thats life. Today when we finally got a surrender Midnight for the first time ever hadn't healed from its wound between rounds and didn't get captured...  :'(
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 12, 2012, 04:04:29 AM
I've enjoyed this invasion more than previous ones. So props to Tom for all his time and effort.

Fronen is so messed up right now. Most of our regions are under the semi-blight effect which reduces food production and recruits from our RCs. We have a hard time raising an army of more than 5k cs....

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 13, 2012, 06:36:23 AM
Western Blight Daimon dead  8)

looking forward to seeing the updated map with all those new regions freed.

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Turner on July 13, 2012, 07:26:30 AM
Indeed, I suspect a few regions will become available south of Sint and west of Nothoi.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on July 13, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
YES! Reeds is back!

And look Creasur is almost back too.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 13, 2012, 01:42:49 PM
4 cities 3 cities and a stronghold opened up beyond all the other regions. And the breadbasket of old Mesh. Eykfar is an awesome region: 601 gold/696 bushels on a rural region.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Solari on July 13, 2012, 02:21:11 PM
Quote from: Geronus on July 11, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Maybe it's your mix of troops? Thalmarkin and Riombara, the premier daimon-killing forces on the island, have employed large quantities of heavy infantry and melee special forces. I don't know what Melhed has for RCs, but I seem to recall that your premier SF recruitment center is for ranged SF.

It's true—arrows are for little girls! Melhed has some amazing infantry and melee SF RCs, though. Thalmarkin made some adjustments early on in how we fought the Daimon armies. Hanging back wasn't accomplishing anything but getting people wounded, so we instead started closing the gap as quickly as possible, using every unit like it was cavalry.  ;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 13, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
I really cannot believe how unlucky (and I think it was mostly simple bad luck) Melhed had been with Midnight. It MAY be that the Midnights were individually tougher than the Darkest Hours and Blight Creatures (Riombara fought the southern Midnight 5 times once he commanded horrors, plus a few times in central Enweil before being able to kill him) but that cannot explain all. Melhed fought the current Midnight EIGHT times in a row, wounding him thrice in one battle 2 or 3 times - and he survived.

Considering that Midnight needs to be killed AND his successor Darkest Hour before any of the eastern blight becomes 'unblighted', considering that Midnight is now in far western Sint I am starting to lose hope to ever see Fwuvoghor again.

I'd /really/ like to see Riombara connected via two routes to the north...having 'only' the current route gives Riombara too strong a position.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on July 13, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on July 13, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
...having 'only' the current route gives Riombara too strong a position.

I presume you either mean "too weak" or "Enweil"...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: vonGenf on July 13, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: Anaris on July 13, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
I presume you either mean "too weak" or "Enweil"...

If there is no northern route, Riombara is much stringer than Enweil. We would have only to fortify Lopa and Droxago, and a full 6 cities realm would stand behind with no other possible route.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Anaris on July 13, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: vonGenf on July 13, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
If there is no northern route, Riombara is much stringer than Enweil. We would have only to fortify Lopa and Droxago, and a full 6 cities realm would stand behind with no other possible route.

Hm. OK, fair enough.

But what the hell can we do??
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: vonGenf on July 13, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
Quote from: Anaris on July 13, 2012, 04:03:14 PM
Hm. OK, fair enough.

But what the hell can we do??

Destroy Enweil? That just feels obvious.....  :D

More seriously, I agree Beluaterra will be more fun with a northern route than without.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 13, 2012, 04:53:44 PM
Sint is getting a lot of attetion now. 
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 14, 2012, 06:32:57 AM
The southern Blight Daimon falls to Gellaer D'Espana of Riombara.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 14, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
Lucky bastards! Hopefully Sint can kill the daimon in Aesh...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 14, 2012, 06:46:12 AM
Riombara is on a roll.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 14, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Luck? Yep, we certainly had that. Boy am I glad that we do not have to fight the 'healing half' of that daimon army this sunset.
Still, we did execute two /very/ carefully organized attacks (into Avengmil and Cjelegy). Basically every last youth capable of holding a stick fought in Cjelegy...two military characters did not take part, 37 did.

Interestingly, Southern Blight Daimon is still listed as present in Cjelegy. I seriously hope he is dead, dead, dead.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on July 14, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
Probably just a matter of Tom deleting the character. Wish I could see the darn map. Getting wounded in the first round is pretty sad.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 14, 2012, 01:40:14 PM
not so much deleting as burying... the corpse of nobles linger, for example...
map hasn't been updated yet. (i guess).. not missing much on that front
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Telrunya on July 14, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
Riombara has been so awfully lucky the moment Overlord was slain. While certainly this was not possible without good coordination and a strong Army, we managed to kill the Daimon Commander each time where others still struggle to get a killing blow in. I wonder how much we'll get back this time, not many lands in the South left.

QuoteInterestingly, Southern Blight Daimon is still listed as present in Cjelegy. I seriously hope he is dead, dead, dead.

That's normal, even for normal characters. Tom just need to get around and bury him, and do his magic with the Blight.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 14, 2012, 02:31:21 PM
Map: It looks like as if 'only' Brovyl, Ovujemeh and Cagamir have been unblighted - but not Eno. If this is true - dang! I did speculate that with so few southern regions left maybe there'd be some 'spillover' to unblight a few of those eastern-blighted regions. Ah well, one could hope.

Five more days- yay! Boy, am I looking forward to rebuilding.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 14, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
.... we're going to get whacked with another one, aren't we...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 14, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: fodder on July 14, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
.... we're going to get whacked with another one, aren't we...

Hm?

Oh yeah. Undead invasion next, monsters afterwards.






....just kidding! Don't jump out that window! :-)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 14, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Quote from: Tom on July 14, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Hm?

Oh yeah. Undead invasion next, monsters afterwards.






....just kidding! Don't jump out that window! :-)

Whew. A year long invasion coming to an end... \o/ thank god...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 14, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
i only meant the blight daimon... XD
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Darksun on July 14, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
To be honest, after getting out of the backwater that was IVF, this invasion was quite fun. I look forward to the political power plays that will shape the continent for some time to come.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 09:41:34 PM
Damn, only 5 days to unblight Eno. And I thought we'd have already achieved it. :-\
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: D'Espana on July 15, 2012, 12:26:08 AM
Quote from: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 09:41:34 PM
Damn, only 5 days to unblight Eno. And I thought we'd have already achieved it. :-\

Meh, just throw us another southern blight daimon. It seems that in Riombara any gardener and his dog are qualified demon slayers anyways...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 15, 2012, 01:07:08 AM
Quote from: JPierreD on July 14, 2012, 09:41:34 PM
Damn, only 5 days to unblight Eno. And I thought we'd have already achieved it. :-\

If Tom wanted to unblight Eno, I think he would have done it already.

Urgh... the post blight geography of beluaterra is going to suck...the map looks pretty bad at the moment.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 01:22:51 AM
Wait, if I understand correctly, some lands remain blighted following the Blight? o_O

So... Entire sections of the world map are useless and impossible to traverse?

Well, that seriously blows... At least it keeps politics interesting. One Blight a certain nation might be in power/have monopoly while the next Blight they get roflstomped and another nation takes control, or some such.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 15, 2012, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 01:22:51 AM
Wait, if I understand correctly, some lands remain blighted following the Blight? o_O

So... Entire sections of the world map are useless and impossible to traverse?

Well, that seriously blows... At least it keeps politics interesting. One Blight a certain nation might be in power/have monopoly while the next Blight they get roflstomped and another nation takes control, or some such.

From what Overlord said, the regions currently under the blight are most likely going to be erased from the map. I don't know how Tom is going to do it but we will not be able to get those regions back ever in the coming invasion.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 02:02:50 AM
I doubt they'll actually cease to exist, only become covered in impenetrable blackness none may conquer or see into, EFFECTIVELY wiping them from the map but not from actual existence.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 15, 2012, 02:08:54 AM
I mostly wonder of the semiblight.  Do the clouds lift in five days?

As for permanent changes, I'd kind of like it if the coastlines were redone as if they never existed.  The blight just looks ugly to have on the map forever.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 15, 2012, 03:50:54 AM
Quote from: D'Espana on July 15, 2012, 12:26:08 AM
Meh, just throw us another southern blight daimon. It seems that in Riombara any gardener and his dog are qualified demon slayers anyways...

Don't forget that another southern Blight Daimon would come with a freshly-recruited army, and that what is left of ours is not in the best shape. Our coffers and getting empty, and we have food to last maybe a few days before starving again (see Rines right now for example). I believe we are likely focusing more on avoiding getting rolfstomped than in going all Daimon-conqueror-like.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 15, 2012, 04:06:25 AM
Quote from: JPierreD on July 15, 2012, 03:50:54 AM
...rolfstomped

HA, I'm not the only one who says that!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 15, 2012, 05:32:48 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 15, 2012, 01:07:08 AM
Urgh... the post blight geography of beluaterra is going to suck...the map looks pretty bad at the moment.

Am I the only one that thinks BT currently looks like a Xenomorph from Aliens?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on July 15, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
Also we are taken the words of Overlord as absolute truth. Because he has always been honest and truthful in all he has said. From what we know this is most likely a final mind game on his part to see us all run around like headless chicken and get killed against his daimons.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Marlboro on July 15, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Quote from: Thunthorn on July 15, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
Also we are taken the words of Overlord as absolute truth. Because he has always been honest and truthful in all he has said. From what we know this is most likely a final mind game on his part to see us all run around like headless chicken and get killed against his daimons.

Well if they're gonna be around forever anyways we might as well just keep kicking their teeth in so they know who the top dog is (Thalmarkin).
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 15, 2012, 11:08:23 AM
Ag...only three regions unblighted afer killing the 2nd southern Blight Creature. Dang. I was so sure that Eno would be unblighted as well - as it did border an already unblighted region (Bolkenia). (Would be good to know AFTER the invasion is over if that was an OOC mistake or if Eno was kept blighted on purpose).

And aye, as long as it looks unprobable to be able to unblight Eno Sassan would prefer to sit out the next daimon army as killing the third Blight Creature before the gates close will only result in a fourth Blight Creature. And considering how Riombara is creacking along all possible seams...well, avoiding another major battle for a few days looks REALLY good right now.

But boy, am I having fun!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 15, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
I suspect that in the unlikely event we kill this southern Blight Daimon the southern blight would finish disappearing, freeing Eno and making impossible the spawn of new Daimons from that side.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 15, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
can always hope tom will be so accommodating to send one down from fwu.

just not at the same time... thanks.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Thunthorn on July 15, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: Marlboro on July 15, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
Well if they're gonna be around forever anyways we might as well just keep kicking their teeth in so they know who the top dog is (Thalmarkin).

I was more thinking about the permanence of the blight after the gates closes. Overlord said that the lands will be brought into the underworld, but is that really likely to happen? Lots of the blight wasn't originally even made by the Daimons (even if they took control of it) lots of it was made by monstrers and undead. I doubt that the blight is inherently daimonic by nature.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 16, 2012, 12:21:40 AM
We were told at the end of the fourth invasion that the bligh is permenant and well seems not.
Now we are being told the same thin all over again.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2012, 12:37:10 AM
Everything is always subject to change at a later date.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 16, 2012, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: fodder on July 15, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
can always hope tom will be so accommodating to send one down from fwu.

just not at the same time... thanks.

You have no idea how hard I laughed when I read that right after doing my turn today. :-)

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Cren on July 16, 2012, 09:27:08 AM
So Overlord is scared, sending threats to generals that we won't be able to reach the portals on time. Funny, where is he (?) hiding?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 16, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
maybe he's really sending one down Fwu? and the portal is there?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 16, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
I doubt that a portal is in Fwuvoghor. That city was taken during the invasion and I would assume that any daimon portal would be situated in regions that already had been blighted /before/ the 5th invasion. Of course, this is an assumption - the portals might have moved during the 5th invasion. Still, never having had any inkling about movable portals I now simply assume portals are 'fixed'. Not that we really know anything about portals at all....at least I don't.

Note that we saw a new daimon commander 'appearing' right at the edge of the blight in Rueffilo (region was scouted at the begining of the turn - nothing to be seen. Later during the turn the region was scouted again, showing a new daimon army already marching to Glongin). We can thus be sure that daimons do not have to 'spawn' IN a portal region - only that they need some kind of connection TO a portal region.

Hm. actually I will send this IC to the generals as well.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 16, 2012, 11:05:53 AM
I think the 4 portals are in these regions: (as said in game by my Character)

North: Jobo's Mouth
South: Eno
East: Cteduul
West: Twillen
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 16, 2012, 11:08:43 AM
What is this talk poertals. Isn't the invasion ending? Overlord promised, no?

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Iltaran on July 16, 2012, 11:14:45 AM
Back in march we had portals appearing in Jobo's Mouth, Nuzanki, Heen, Twillen, Zod and Eno. That was for the April Fool's joke, but the locations might well be similar.

Certainly, we've been pushing towards the borders of Jobo's Mouth, Nuzanki and Eno, while Heen has already been retaken.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 16, 2012, 12:35:26 PM
By tomorrow this time, at least I assume, you will all be very excited. Not necessarily in the "having fun" sense, more in the "being agitated" sense. Let's just say that one of the lessons from the last invasion was that it shouldn't slowly tapper out.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 16, 2012, 12:39:17 PM
I...already was excited enough by the possibility to reach a portal in Eno. No further excitement necessary.

But I guess I haven't been asked   ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 16, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
Weren't there some rituals in Villrill? Was that JUST blighting?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2012, 04:53:30 PM
Villriil was where Overlord tricked some players into having an advy use a set of portal stones. The result was that the region was blighted.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Telrunya on July 16, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
And it also seemed to have destroyed The Light of the Fourth Invasion, at least for as far as we know.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Telrunya on July 16, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Damn you, Northern Realms! Can't you keep your Daimons in your lands instead of letting them wander into Riombara? We were absolutely terribly content with just dealing with the Southern Daimons, thankyouverymuch. Clean up your own mess :P

Or the Daimons have a bad sense of direction ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 16, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
Arrr. 'Eastern Portal Guardian' has appeared in Melegra, leading 32.000. I assume we'll see the 'Southern Portal Guardian' as well. Add the probable '3rd southern Blight Creature' and I am going to throw a fit.

Uh...man the walls, boys. If you need me I'll be in the cellar. Don't disturb, I have to count winecasks or something.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Cren on July 16, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
Wait, what portal guardian? I thought it was over. My legs are shivering :-/

Just joking, we are chasing the northern daimon, bring all netherworld scum, we would plow through them all. Gaah!!!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 16, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
What is he doing in Melegra? Shouldn't he be where the portal is?

Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Indirik on July 16, 2012, 08:04:50 PM
How do you know he's not?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 16, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
... it wasn't me... honest, gov. i didn't press no buttons.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 16, 2012, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: mikm on July 16, 2012, 11:08:43 AM
What is this talk poertals. Isn't the invasion ending? Overlord promised, no?

This made me lol.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 16, 2012, 10:13:27 PM
I as well. As if we can trust the Demon Overlord to be honest about something >_>
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 17, 2012, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: Ehndras on July 16, 2012, 10:13:27 PM
I as well. As if we can trust the Demon Overlord to be honest about something >_>
You'd be surprised at how many did...

Anyways... new Western Blight Daimon showed up, so we should see a brand new Southern Blight Daimon soon.

Northern Blight - Aesh (13k)
Midnight East - Haji (20k)
Eastern Portal Guardian - Melegra (30k)
West Blight -  Weghie (10k cs)
Southern Blight - (?)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 17, 2012, 08:22:57 AM
Oh look, southern portal guards at 30-32k CS.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 17, 2012, 08:23:32 AM
Add another, lets say 5-15k for southern blight resurgence and we've got ourselves an absolute cluster!@#$ in Riombara. <_<
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 17, 2012, 08:55:18 AM
For doing so well down south, you won the prize of another blight daimon plus Tom threw in 2 portal guardians for free.  :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 17, 2012, 09:17:29 AM
So well. >_> We've been fighting for our lives.

I've never seen such tight-knit, well-ordered combat movements as I'm seeing in Rio atm. This is some GOOD stuff. The awesome leadership and participating nobles are what's making Rio do 'so well', not luck or any such things. These folks are really giving it their all, even though everything is falling apart around them. I'm definitely enjoying all the RPing and the fighting itself as well. :-)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 17, 2012, 09:25:56 AM
Thalmarkin doesn't have any daimon around :o. They are afraid of the very people who have slain their master ;)
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 17, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
Regarding Thalmarkin not having any daimons around: I assume that there is more than one of each portal guards. And as it is likely that next to southern and eastern portal guards there are northern portal guard(s) as well -  I think it very likely that there ARE daimons close to Thalmarkin.

What I really want to know is a) will the guards attack (as the Blight Creatures are doing) or will they stay on station and /guard/ something. And if the latter, b) what would we gain by defeating one? Something along the lines of preventing the portals from closing or preventing bligthed areas being drawn to the daimon lands? And if this is the case, do we need to defeat a guard in the next 3-4 days? If yes (and if 30.000+ strength is their true strength and that they are similar in combat to the other daimons) I can near guarantee that Riombara will not be able to defeat a guardian during the next 4 days. Or is it not necessary to defeat them and all we need os to slip (only) a noble or a noble with a unit past them to simply /reach/ a portal? Questions, questions.

Knowledge so far:
eastern portal Guard has been sighted last halfday, has been stationary in Melegra, comitting genocide this morning (around 500 peasants lost)
southern Portal Guard has been sighted this halfday - presumably having been stationary since yesterday as well.

both Guards command 30.000+ scouted strength. True strength unknown. Capabilities unknown.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 17, 2012, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 17, 2012, 09:25:56 AM
Thalmarkin doesn't have any daimon around :o. They are afraid of the very people who have slain their master ;)

does that mean you get 4 of them?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 17, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Having one Portal guards for each of the cardinal points would fit the pattern of this invasion. I assume they have appeared to do the ritual that takes the remaining blighted regions into the netherworld. If the deadline is to be believed, then we have what 3 or 4 days?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tom on July 17, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Zakilevo on July 17, 2012, 09:25:56 AM
Thalmarkin doesn't have any daimon around :o . They are afraid of the very people who have slain their master ;)

You just haven't scouted it yet...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Naidraug on July 17, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
the western blight daimon was spotted moving to Weghie
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Psyche on July 17, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
Fact and speculation aside, I think it's just plain funny that none of the blight daimons attacked Enweil despite Overlord having been so determined to destroy them earlier on.  I guess they just had bigger fish to fry. 

Now I'm curious as to whether or not portal guards will go on an offensive,  and whether or not daimons in unblighted lands go or stay with the ritual.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Geronus on July 17, 2012, 06:21:46 PM
Quote from: Psyche on July 17, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
Fact and speculation aside, I think it's just plain funny that none of the blight daimons attacked Enweil despite Overlord having been so determined to destroy them earlier on.  I guess they just had bigger fish to fry. 

Now I'm curious as to whether or not portal guards will go on an offensive,  and whether or not daimons in unblighted lands go or stay with the ritual.

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the fact that Enweil didn't actually border the southern blight anywhere, at least not after Darkest Hour was killed.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 17, 2012, 07:27:04 PM
Ok...the Portal Guards /do/ go on offensive. The eastern has moved from Melegra to Ajitmon - and the southern from Bolkenia to Irombro, ironically meeting Sassan and capturing him. Prison. Yay.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Gustav Kuriga on July 17, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
You used ironically wrong, you be thrown in jail!
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Ehndras on July 17, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
Oh. Sh*t.

Without Sassan's orders, Riombara is screwed.

I do believe, good sirs, the sh*t has just hit the fan.

Everyone is already running around like chickens without a head, bahaha. Coldchest isn't making it any easier. :-P

At least one of the Marshals is reiterating your last orders to preserve some semblance of order.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Telrunya on July 17, 2012, 09:56:07 PM
Yeah, and I'm not sure Marche has been making friends today :P
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: fodder on July 17, 2012, 10:05:14 PM
nah.. .it's just a question of choice. the more choices there are, thing will go tits up faster.

when you see 1 daimon, you can only whack it here or there. if there's a hint of being able to enter a blighted region... then someone will want to give it a try, etc...

the quickest way of finding out if you can enter a blighted area? did someone in the north give it a try?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: JPierreD on July 17, 2012, 11:22:30 PM
Quote from: Tan_Serrai on July 17, 2012, 07:27:04 PM
Ok...the Portal Guards /do/ go on offensive. The eastern has moved from Melegra to Ajitmon - and the southern from Bolkenia to Irombro, ironically meeting Sassan and capturing him. Prison. Yay.

Why would have he gone to Irombro if not to get you?
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Coldchest on July 17, 2012, 11:25:10 PM
Quote from: Ehndras on July 17, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
Oh. Sh*t.

a. Coldchest isn't making it any easier. :-P


You mean the most glorious knight? he is a beacon of hope and not a problem!

he is heading to his death...
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Telrunya on July 17, 2012, 11:44:08 PM
Just tell us how strong the Daimons are before you die, please ;D
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Coldchest on July 17, 2012, 11:56:59 PM
How can a death be glorious without drama?

he will tell you but he will die just before the last word
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Antonine on July 18, 2012, 12:49:22 AM
Quote from: Coldchest on July 17, 2012, 11:56:59 PM
How can a death be glorious without drama?

he will tell you but he will die just before the last word

"The strength of the daimons is something important that you must know! Verily, if I do not tell you you will be doomed as sure as the fish are doomed to swim in the sea and the birds to fly in the sky! And when I have told you what you must know it will be as if the gods themselves have parted the clouds and brought divine knowledge unto you all! So harken to my words and heed me as I say that the daimons number *urk* *dies*"
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Sypher on July 18, 2012, 05:52:36 AM
Well, someone did try to enter a blight region recently. They were able to fight the daimons there before being forced to return to the region they came from by the game.

Here is where the Daimons are to my understanding.

Northern Portal Daimon: ? - most likely north of Thalmarkin
E Portal Daimon:  Melegra (?)
W Portal Daimon: Watto > Tor
S Portal Daimon: Bolkenia (?)

Midnight East: headed to Baqua
North Blight: Aesh (?)
West Blight: Attacking Dyomoque
South Blight: (?)

Wild speculation: The East & South Portal Daimons meet in the middle and then do a ritual. Bad stuff happens ???. Alternative speculation, the Portal Daimons target population centers and those region get sucked into the netherworld.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Cren on July 18, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
W. Portal Guardian was seen in Tor, flaunting 30k CS.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Zakilevo on July 18, 2012, 08:09:51 AM
N. Portal Guardian in Wailing Wood with 33k CS heading toward Unger. Oh God.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Tan dSerrai on July 18, 2012, 12:37:50 PM
E Portal Guard has moved south to Ajitmon. Movement currently unknown.

S Portal Guard was in Irombro at sunset yesterday and now is most likely in Rii.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: mikm on July 18, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
Quote from: Sypher on July 18, 2012, 05:52:36 AM
Well, someone did try to enter a blight region recently. They were able to fight the daimons there before being forced to return to the region they came from by the game.

Here is where the Daimons are to my understanding.

Northern Portal Daimon: ? - most likely north of Thalmarkin
E Portal Daimon:  Melegra (?)
W Portal Daimon: Watto > Tor
S Portal Daimon: Bolkenia (?)

Midnight East: headed to Baqua
North Blight: Aesh (?)
West Blight: Attacking Dyomoque
South Blight: (?)

Wild speculation: The East & South Portal Daimons meet in the middle and then do a ritual. Bad stuff happens ???. Alternative speculation, the Portal Daimons target population centers and those region get sucked into the netherworld.

If they simply laimed all the regions belonging to netherworld it would be bad enough.
Title: Re: VICTORY
Post by: Chenier on July 30, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: mikm on July 10, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
It did feel like the enemy was holding back a lot to give us a chance A player realm with the with the mechanics available for the daimons would have been a lot more agresive, brutal.

I always felt it was charity that Fheuv'n survived more than a week. :P