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BattleMaster => Locals => East Island => Topic started by: DoctorHarte on March 24, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
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Well SoA is starting to lose more and more regions, Fontan's capital just got run over by Sirion, Westmoor has had little interaction, Ibladesh fends off Perdan and Caligus while DoA tries to stay alive. Obsidian Islands does their own little thing. Now straight up, without any passion for the realm you're rooting for, what do you think will be the outcome of these wars?
Mine:
Fontan dies.
SoA dies.
Westmoor finds peace.
Sirion wins and creates a colony or two.
Obsidian Islands does their thing.
Caligus will lose Isadril and Hamadan,
Perdan will either consume the Castle Ubent duchy or the Aix duchy or both (meaning DoA will die),
Ibladesh will stay alive and create a new colony in Isadril/Hamadan?
The last three are up in the air. I doubt any of the three major realms will completely be destroyed but their shape will change for sure. Probably a short cease-fire or something until one side breaks it and then we'll go to war again. Who knows, it's all up for discussion ;)
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Fontan dies.
We proposed them a peaceful solution but apparently they didn't like it..
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I saw it. I think it was too much to ask for as the realm who is losing in that war. :-\
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The only certainty is that Westmoor will be handed the "Most Epic Fail" award of 2011. After having cashed the 2010 one, handed out in retrospect.
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Hmm we thought it was fair since Fontan was going to lose whatever we asked anyways.
They countered it with a ridiculous offer. If you only read their treaty, you might believe they are actually the ones who are winning :P
Sirion won't create any colony. Probably recreate OR but Sirion is content with their ancestral woodland. :(
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Predictions for long term outcome:
Fontan dies first, followed by SoA.
DoA struggles on for a while, until eventually dying as well.
Westmoor continues to sit idle in the middle of the continent doing nothing worthy of noting until Sirion stomps them.
Sirion grows a bit.
OI a few more pieces of land on the mainland.
Perdan takes Aix, re-establishes it's niche on the map.
Caligus and Ibladesh continue fighting in their silly war until DoA is dead, and Perdan joins in for the fun of taking Ibby City.
Eventually, all the realms on the continent come down on top of the Church of Ibladesh's head for having too many expansionistic ideas, and Ibladesh shrinks considerably. Probably down to Semall and Itorunt duchies.
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Caligus and Ibladesh continue fighting in their silly war until DoA is dead, and Perdan joins in for the fun of taking Ibby City.
I want to see those battles :D DoA would join Ibladesh, boosting their strength up to 90-100 nobles. Considering Ibladesh has over 3,000 gold every production a lot of militia could be stationed there if it came down to it. I'm looking forward to the epic battles. Like all of Caligus and Perdan vs Ibladesh and DoA (if they are still around).
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I'd love to loot Ibladesh city. Again. Oh, those were fun times, camping Ibby city for four days, stealing all their tax gold from that rich city. That was some fun looting.
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I'd love to loot Ibladesh city. Again. Oh, those were fun times, camping Ibby city for four days, stealing all their tax gold from that rich city. That was some fun looting.
I wasn't around for that. Didn't you get wounded in the last battle where DoA/Ibladesh finally pulled out a win? :P I wouldn't mind seeing the innards of Perdan, too ::)
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Yes, my Perdan character took a light wound in the battle. For the first time ever for me since the new wounding system started, it did not get worse the same turn, it actually got better. I didn't miss the turn, but get less hours for a few turn.
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I want to see those battles :D DoA would join Ibladesh, boosting their strength up to 90-100 nobles. Considering Ibladesh has over 3,000 gold every production a lot of militia could be stationed there if it came down to it. I'm looking forward to the epic battles. Like all of Caligus and Perdan vs Ibladesh and DoA (if they are still around).
This. I have never understood the line of thinking that says that the fates of DoA and Ibladesh are somehow linked. Certainly DoA needs Ibby to survive, but eliminating DoA would just create a realm with twice the peasant population of Sirion and just as many nobles, and in possession of a very motivated religious wing. Is everyone certain that's such a good idea?
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I'd love to loot Ibladesh city.
I remember looting Barad Falas was causing my men more casualties then the City since thousands and thousands of peasants resisted. Would you be able to even properly loot Ibladesh without killing off the attacking army?
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Massacring the peasants is half the fun of looting a city.
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This. I have never understood the line of thinking that says that the fates of DoA and Ibladesh are somehow linked. Certainly DoA needs Ibby to survive, but eliminating DoA would just create a realm with twice the peasant population of Sirion and just as many nobles, and in possession of a very motivated religious wing. Is everyone certain that's such a good idea?
As opposed to allow two CoI realms to exist, with two capitals from which to recruit, capable of absorbing even more land, and both of them wanting to kill you? No thanks. Besides, I want my city back. :)
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The only certainty is that Westmoor will be handed the "Most Epic Fail" award of 2011. After having cashed the 2010 one, handed out in retrospect.
QFT.
I personally blame their weather ???
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As opposed to allow two CoI realms to exist, with two capitals from which to recruit, capable of absorbing even more land, and both of them wanting to kill you? No thanks. Besides, I want my city back.
Kill? Please, you wound us. If you convert, we're very nice people ;)
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Don't count out SoA just yet. You guys seem to be assuming that all the Fontan players will just rage-quit the moment Fontan dies. ;D
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They couldn't beat sirion when they were in Fontan. Why should we think they would do any better after they have moved to a poorer realm that is even harder to defend, and has less allies?
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This wouldn't be the first time SoA might be in a situation where there capital is burning. But who knows if Sirion even has the motivation to follow through and actually destroy Fontan and possibly SoA. I don't really care either way since food trading earns me money no matter what.
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Come to Ibladesh and I'll pay double.. once my mortal wounds heal :(
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Well I know for sure Sirion will destroy SoA because they want to rebuild their old ally OR.
But new OR will probably be like DoA in my opinion. Since OR will owe everything about their recreation to Sirion.
Fontan will going to lose their capital soon and move to Ashforth... Now Sirion has to deal with 10k militia arg.
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Depends on how you look at it. Fontan will have to pay and feed that militia, or it's gonna go *poof* :)
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Hmm good point. With that many militia units in one city, most of income would go into paying them. With only one duchy, it won't be enough to maintain a big mobile army.
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One thing though, Fontan and Asena have many dedicated nobles and will not easily give in to Sirion.
But whatever predictions are made, Battlemaster is like a good game of soccer. The ball is round, anything can happen.
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One thing though, Fontan and Asena have many dedicated nobles and will not easily give in to Sirion.
But whatever predictions are made, Battlemaster is like a good game of soccer. The ball is round, anything can happen.
And at the end, the Germans win?
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bah Australia just beat Germany in a friendly match. How the mighty have fallen.
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A friendly match means nothing! Only FIFA world cup matters :)
Unless Ibladesh funds SoA, more nobles mean nothing. Sirion held off for this long b/c they had dedicated nobles who were well funded. Now that Fontan lost most of her duchies, Fontan cannot build up an army large enough to fight Sirion. SoA isn't much of a challenge once Fontan dies unless Westmoor kicks in.
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A friendly match means nothing! Only FIFA world cup matters :)
Unless Ibladesh funds SoA, more nobles mean nothing. Sirion held off for this long b/c they had dedicated nobles who were well funded. Now that Fontan lost most of her duchies, Fontan cannot build up an army large enough to fight Sirion. SoA isn't much of a challenge once Fontan dies unless Westmoor kicks in.
You mean the cup they haven't won in 20 years?
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Well they did get near. Doing much better than Australians at least :)
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Well they did get near. Doing much better than Australians at least :)
Which is probably why I find it amusing that they lost to Australia, which is a second tier team at best.
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A friendly match means nothing! Only FIFA world cup matters :)
Unless Ibladesh funds SoA, more nobles mean nothing. Sirion held off for this long b/c they had dedicated nobles who were well funded. Now that Fontan lost most of her duchies, Fontan cannot build up an army large enough to fight Sirion. SoA isn't much of a challenge once Fontan dies unless Westmoor kicks in.
I shall not drop that ball any more. Everyone instantly starts chatting about soccer.. anyone seen the Netherlands - Hungary? 5 - 3.. ;D
But now serious, SoA has enough resources so we would benefit from more nobles. And Westmoor has already kicked in. If that will be enough is the question.
On the other side of the island, a quote that fits Ibladesh: "Winning! Duh.." - Charlie Sheen
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But now serious, SoA has enough resources so we would benefit from more nobles. And Westmoor has already kicked in. If that will be enough is the question.
Do you mean "kicked in" or "kicked the bucket"? ;)
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more like kicked lol
Hmm SoA only has two duchies. Will they be enough to support Fontanese nobles once they move to SoA like what nobles of OR did?.
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Fontan isn't lost yet. Who nows what could happen ;)
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Unless a miracle happens Fontan will die :)
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Unless a miracle happens Fontan will die :)
I've seen enough miracles in this game to steeple my fingers and wait and watch. I wouldn't lay odds that they'll live, but no one would have laid odds that Arcaea would have survived any number of times in the past few years.
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Fontan could easily live, if they accept reasonable surrender terms. Reasonable, that is, as seen from the viewpoint of those who won the war. (Protip for Fontan: that's not you.) It is very possible that if those in power continue to refuse to surrender, that someone will eventually rebel, win, and then surrender. That's just two of the ways Fontan could end up living.
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Their current group is pretty degenerate though, which is sad. I remember the days in 2007 and 2008 when we were actually pushing into Sirion. And then we fell apart oh well.
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Fontan was indeed powerful back in the days. Cannot even compare Ibladesh with Fontan of old. Very dark days for Sirion.
It was surprising how a realm as strong as Fontan could fall apart like that.
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They fell into the same trap as many republics/democracies before them: Letting the wrong people grab positions they weren't cut out for, and failing to remove them.
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That is the problem with republics and democracies. The best liar gets to be the boss.
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They fell into the same trap as many republics/democracies before them: Letting the wrong people grab positions they weren't cut out for, and failing to remove them.
Exactly. Their General and military is horrible! If they had the minds and eyes of Ibladesh's wwar council, they would be in Avamar by now. I mean we are crushing Perdan and Caligus with our armies at the same time. With a little help from DoA, but mostly just us!
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Exactly. Their General and military is horrible! If they had the minds and eyes of Ibladesh's wwar council, they would be in Avamar by now. I mean we are crushing Perdan and Caligus with our armies at the same time. With a little help from DoA, but mostly just us!
And the Ibby War Council is also delusional. Which is quite acceptabe from a Caligan and Perdanese point of view. Crushing? Really? Might want to choose a better word matey.
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And the Ibby War Council is also delusional. Which is quite acceptabe from a Caligan and Perdanese point of view. Crushing? Really? Might want to choose a better word matey.
Your war council is King Dobromir..... ::)
How many battles have you won? We've beaten you with half our military. If we put everything into it and DoA could hold off Perdan for a few weeks you'd be down Hamadan and Isadril, I can assure you that. Plus your army is very slow.. it took you days to refit then get to Bursa, then Abadan, and finally to Leibo for a little raid? Thanks for giving our armies in Moyale free range of your lands including a poorly defended capital.
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You do realize that Caligus is also fighting on two fronts, right? And once your north/east (Will never understand why people call the east side of the island "north") side allies fall (Fontan), You're going to have a bit more trouble. Especially if Sirion troops enter the fray, long march or not.
There's the theory that the allies of Ibladesh will flee to said theocracy should their realms fall, but... What then? Will you have the gold to supply them? The manpower to raise armies? Honestly? It's highly unlikely.
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We'll see. Not much point predicting it now. Both sides have had their losses and victories. Ibladesh is not doing badly, but DoA is having a much harder time in return. Caligus is getting support from the North, but Nobles from the North (This is Ibladesh! We make our East our North if we want too ;)) might come to our aid as they flee for new Realms, which Ibladesh certainly has the gold for to support. Frankly, it can very much still go both ways. Only time will tell.
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You do realize that Caligus is also fighting on two fronts, right? And once your north/east (Will never understand why people call the east side of the island "north") side allies fall (Fontan), You're going to have a bit more trouble. Especially if Sirion troops enter the fray, long march or not.
There's the theory that the allies of Ibladesh will flee to said theocracy should their realms fall, but... What then? Will you have the gold to supply them? The manpower to raise armies? Honestly? It's highly unlikely.
Ibladesh at this point could support more than 100 nobles. Look at Sirion.. we are larger than them and command more military power. Of course we could support the nobles with estates, gold, and units. The more nobles, the more land Ibladesh will take over. Bring 3 nobles with you and I'll get you a lordship XD Unlike Westmoor, Ibladesh knows how to organize her armies and resrouces to truly fight a war and be effective.
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I agree that Ibladesh could definitely support quite a few more nobles. The gold is there, easily. As for adding more regions, I think Ibladesh is pretty close to the max it could easily support. It already has the nobles to support more land, but has several rogue regions it never bothered to take, despite a desperate need for more food.
As for the Ibladesh military... Well, Ibladesh has put their entire army against Caligus ever since the start of the war, and Caligus still owns Isadril and Hamadan. If Ibladesh's army was as good as you're claiming, then this war would have bee over a long time ago. The fact that it's not, is very telling. Ibladesh's military is OK, nothing special. No better or worse than just about any other.
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As for the Ibladesh military... Well, Ibladesh has put their entire army against Caligus ever since the start of the war, and Caligus still owns Isadril and Hamadan. If Ibladesh's army was as good as you're claiming, then this war would have bee over a long time ago. The fact that it's not, is very telling. Ibladesh's military is OK, nothing special. No better or worse than just about any other.
I disagree, our military is very well organized, run, thought over, double checked, etc. What brings us down is the activity of some of our nobles lags our armies behind. The minds behind our strategies are some of the best on the continent, I would think. And you are wrong, our entire military has not been in Caligan lands as you have seen. Over 14k CS are clearly raiding Perdanese territory right now. If we put everything into Caligus right now we could destroy their army and run over Hamadan, but this is a harder war than just that.
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Yes, Ibladesh is currently raiding Perdan. That is a relatively recent development. (As is the fact that you actually beat us. Third time's the charm, eh?) Only in the past, what, two weeks? For the several months before that, Ibladesh didn't have a single noble helping DoA. So for several months you had all your forces attacking Caligus. Unless you just left a few armies at home on walkabout or something.
A good military plan accounts for the fact that you have inactive players and nobles that just won't move.
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There's the theory that the allies of Ibladesh will flee to said theocracy should their realms fall, but... What then? Will you have the gold to supply them? The manpower to raise armies? Honestly? It's highly unlikely.
Well, didn't Sirion hold out against most of the island under *exactly* those conditions? The nobles of OR fled to Sirion and then they held off Fontan, SoA, Westmoor, OI *and* Perdan at various times for years. I'm not saying would be conquering anyone under similar conditions, but eventually the alliance against Ibladesh would fall apart, just like the alliance against Sirion did, and I'd put the odds on them surviving.
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Sirion has an amazingly excellent defensive location. They have fortified cities at the entrances to their backyard until you hit the very northern border: Avamar, Sirion, Sir Temple, and Parm. Plus Trinbar, the fortified townsland. In addition, the geography makes it so that Sirion has very short movement times to get to these regions, while the attackers had much longer travel times to go around and reach them from the outside. That's why for two years you saw "(Insert realm here) takes control of Obando/Dale/Tabost" repeated every other day.
It didn't help that Fontan's #1 strategy, that they insisted on trying over and over and over and over.... was to mass everything into one blob and throw it at Trinbar. They lose, everyone goes home to refit. For Sirion that's a half day move to their capital. For Fontan it's a two day trip. Westmoor/SoA: Three or four days.Perdan/OI it's a week or more. So Sirion refits in a day and is back on the attack before Fontan has even started to recruit.
I'm glad that Sirion finally managed to break the chain and take out Fontan city and Karbala. That's what they really needed to crack the war wide open.
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Yes. Sirion held off for so long because of many factors like geography of their cities and other things. They had many nobles as well but SoA and Fontan have more if you combine the both. On top of that nobles from Westmoor+OI+Perdan came to help their allies as well. (I remember marching toward Sirion when I had a char in Perdan. Had another char in Sirion. Funny how my chars tried to kill each other.)
Players in Sirion were very active too. I guess constant battles kept them going. The funny thing is even though Sirion is a republic, their gold distribution system works like a communist state.
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Ibladesh at this point could support more than 100 nobles. Look at Sirion.. we are larger than them and command more military power. Of course we could support the nobles with estates, gold, and units. The more nobles, the more land Ibladesh will take over. Bring 3 nobles with you and I'll get you a lordship XD Unlike Westmoor, Ibladesh knows how to organize her armies and resrouces to truly fight a war and be effective.
Ibladesh: 81
Fontan: 56
Sultanate of Asena: 32
Diocese of Aix: 17
Throw in another 30 from Westmoor if Flaylen doesn't beg for forgiveness from its mother countries.
You think Ibladesh can support upwards of 216 nobles? Most of whom probably won't have gold or units as they flee West. Also, the more people you have, the less manageable logistics can become. Can't amass the entire army in a single region, it'll devour all the food. Lots of room for people to disobey orders, screw up directions, etc.
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If you were properly controlling of oaths, Ibladesh could probably take at least 150 nobles. There was a time when Perdan had 177. Abington had 183. So, yeah, Ibby could probably do 150.
Man, those were some serious war machines back then...
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Good old times!
Oh man, we've turned into old people ;D
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I wish I had seen those days. Being General would have been a BLAST! Unfortunately, it's allabout seceding and having your own realm these days rather than unity.
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Ah Abington. When I joined Abington, Redspan has just been destroyed. After that, Abington slowly died as well. Hate CE for that:(.
Whenever I join a realm in Atamara, they usually die. Abington and Falasan.. sigh.
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Ah Abington. When I joined Abington, Redspan has just been destroyed. After that, Abington slowly died as well. Hate CE for that:(.
Whenever I join a realm in Atamara, they usually die. Abington and Falasan.. sigh.
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So, EC...North Sirion and South Ibladesh...yeah....
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I wish I had seen those days. Being General would have been a BLAST! Unfortunately, it's allabout seceding and having your own realm these days rather than unity.
Heh. Speaking as the guy who was the General of Abington for a time before RedSpan fell, and having been in the Abington war machine before then, it was much, much, much more fun just being in the machine. Probably spent four hours a day just working on General stuff, and waking up at odd hours to get scout reports, issue orders...Blech.
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Hm, being unable to sleep one night because I was wondering whether my hero's cavalry charge into a bunch of undead would lead to his death? Oh yeah, and that was when Fontan still owned Greatbridge.
I think Jared gained the most H/P and fought the most battles, even as my very first character, and even though he didn't say much (Even if he did he would have been drowned out in the hundreds of daily messages back then), and just went around fighting, the neat part was, winning battles all the time made the positions/wealth/etc meaningless in my mind.
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*chuckles* I love how everyone keeps talking about Westmoor's not doing anything. I don't suppose anyone has figured out exactly why yet, but I'll give you a hint. There are a few rather large stock-piles of gold. If someone did the accounting they'd see that Westmoor has been fighting with a sizeable chunk of its income not being thrown into the fight.
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*chuckles* I love how everyone keeps talking about Westmoor's not doing anything. I don't suppose anyone has figured out exactly why yet, but I'll give you a hint. There are a few rather large stock-piles of gold. If someone did the accounting they'd see that Westmoor has been fighting with a sizeable chunk of its income not being thrown into the fight.
Good point. What are they waiting for.. allies to die so they can take the brute force of Sirion on instead? Great thinking..
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lol They might try to bribe Sirion to survive. After all if their allies die, they will feel the wrath of their mother realms like Perdan for their betrayal.
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I know at least one Caligan wants to see the death of Westmoor eventually. Maybe they should've been more careful with who they tortured.
*innocent whistle*
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lol They might try to bribe Sirion to survive. After all if their allies die, they will feel the wrath of their mother realms like Perdan for their betrayal.
Both Perdan and Caligus are our parent realms, amusingly.
I know at least one Caligan wants to see the death of Westmoor eventually. Maybe they should've been more careful with who they tortured.
*innocent whistle*
Er... By who? o.O
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I won't name any names, as it's going to be a huge IG surprise and RP when it happens. God's willing.
8)
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I am guessing it is you? ;)
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Hehe Caligus got all OOC pissed off at spies in their realm. Which is ironic because they have spies in Ibladesh, too ::)
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Good point. What are they waiting for.. allies to die so they can take the brute force of Sirion on instead? Great thinking..
Who is to say that Sirion really wants to fight Westmoor? They're not technically at war. Also don't forget Gregor blew close to 3600 gold on that tournament for his 90th birthday. That's 3 days of 100% taxes of his city, for comparisons sake or close to a full month if he got the whole share.
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Obviously this is coming from me having a character in Westmoor, and may potentially give away strategic information. Westmoor may be pathetic except it is not in the sense of the players going around being idiots, but that there are hardly any nobles that can respond to orders in time. There are less then 30 nobles in the realm, about 20 in the army, and about 10 or less that can show up to places on time. So there aren't many options to do stuff when you army is limited by a small random amount of players that can play on time and going up against an army about 3x the size. This was caused by a long time of infighting that slowly dwindled it's active players. So yes it is correct to say Westmoor is pathetic, but I hope you don't say in the sense of insulting the players that are trying their best with limit resources.
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That is one thing bad about a small realm. Just not enough people. Even in Sirion, some number of people do not become TLs. Most of them get reassigned to do other more simpler work.
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So yes it is correct to say Westmoor is pathetic, but I hope you don't say in the sense of insulting the players that are trying their best with limit resources.
By no means MaleMaldives. I do not intend to insult the players in any way. Small realms with a limited player base are just extremely hard to keep alive when fighting giants. Unless Westmoor manages to rally in some kind of David Vs. Goliath situation, I feel they are genuinely doomed. It's nothing against the players at all. Just an IC hatred between one of my characters and one in Westmoor.
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Perdan is doing great. Finishing off DoA now huh. And Caligus is somehow pushing back. What is happening with Ibladesh? I mean how are they suddenly losing the war.
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Caligus elected a new General. That might have something to do with it. Increased co-ordination between Perdan and Caligus has been helping as well.
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i hear ibby is persuing for peace.
What are the terms discused?
This could provide some amusement.
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With what the newly appointed Duke of Aix did, there will be no mercy. >:( >:( >:(
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Sorry, my idea. :)
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Was a pretty petty thing to do, destroying the best cavalry centre on the island along with all the other buildings. Good way to ensure Perdan doesn't make peace with Ibladesh. Foot, meet bullet.
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Sorry, my idea. :)
Well, it's been a few years since I've had the pleasure of looting Ibladesh city. Now you've given us a reason to do it again. :)
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You would have utilize anything to continue this war.
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You would have utilize anything to continue this war.
I will admit that we would not have stopped until we had taken back all the territory we lost in the last war. I doubt anyone would begrudge us that right. After that? Well, we probably wouldn't have wanted Ibladesh to stay that big, so they would /have/ to be cut down some. This gets them nice and angry and resentful toward Perdan, giving them reason to come back and attack us again.
Seriously, a good enemy is hard to find. If you keep wiping out all your enemies, who are you going to fight next?
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Seriously, a good enemy is hard to find. If you keep wiping out all your enemies, who are you going to fight next?
Very true
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Well, if you truly stand unchallenged among men, then take your battles to the realms of the gods.
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Seriously, a good enemy is hard to find. If you keep wiping out all your enemies, who are you going to fight next?
And seriously, what better enemy is there then a bunch of crazy religious fanatics?
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Well, SoA is very likely to die. How it will happen is probably like this:
Sirion marches its army to Oroya and starts a colony there(SoA can't even dent a full Sirion army). They can then afford to send some force to support Obsidian Islands in taking Kazakh and surrounding regions. And..well..that's about it. Westmoor isn't likely to tip that outcome in any direction.
From what I've gathered Sirion doesn't really want peace with SoA since they can just as easily split it among current and future allies. Poor Westmoor will then be divided up among the victors with just as little that they can do about it as SoA now.
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Sirion might not go to war with Westmoor. Perdan and Caligus might crush Westmoor for the betrayal.
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Sirion might not go to war with Westmoor. Perdan and Caligus might crush Westmoor for the betrayal.
Their colony and Obsidian Islands might like some extra land and then bring Sirion in with them.
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What about me make peace, Perdan has a breather, Ibladesh stomps Caligus a bit (Perdan shouldn't have a problem with this, they aren't that close...), then then we go back at it in a few months. Once Caligus is the lesser of us two :P
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And if Aix hadn't been stripped bare and the Diocese had surrendered under pressure from Ibladesh, that might have been possible.
Now?
You'll be lucky if Perdan accepts another city as their only price (assuming we can win, of course, which I think is slightly more likely than not).
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Actually, Ibladesh didn't seem so interested in the Diocese surrendering. When those discussions finally started (or at least reached my ears, as I stepped down from Archbishop, albeit I'm still an Elder of the Church), it was already way too late and Aix was burned down. If they had started earlier, they might have been more productive.
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I've geared myself for a though war. It would be dissappointing if Perdan wouldn't continue.
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With what the newly appointed Duke of Aix did, there will be no mercy. >:( >:( >:(
Wow... Bad, bad move. Sure, Ibladesh keeps those cavalry out of Perdan's hands, but between them and Caligus they were beating the pants off of Ibladesh just fine without them. What Ibladesh needs is to conclude a separate peace. I see the odds of that happening being much worse now.
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Wow... Bad, bad move. Sure, Ibladesh keeps those cavalry out of Perdan's hands, but between them and Caligus they were beating the pants off of Ibladesh just fine without them. What Ibladesh needs is to conclude a separate peace. I see the odds of that happening being much worse now.
Sometimes winning or even surviving is not the main priority of a realm.
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What about me make peace, Perdan has a breather, Ibladesh stomps Caligus a bit (Perdan shouldn't have a problem with this, they aren't that close...), then then we go back at it in a few months. Once Caligus is the lesser of us two :P
I definitely do not see any part of this happening outside of an Ibladeshian dream. Perdan doesn't need the breather, Ibladesh hasn't done much stomping of Caligus aside from the initial push, the Perdan-Caligus relations have increased fairly well as far I as I know, and after the war is over, Ibladesh will be a word only mentioned when talking about the city. 8)
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I definitely do not see any part of this happening outside of an Ibladeshian dream. Perdan doesn't need the breather, Ibladesh hasn't done much stomping of Caligus aside from the initial push, the Perdan-Caligus relations have increased fairly well as far I as I know, and after the war is over, Ibladesh will be a word only mentioned when talking about the city. 8)
Nah, I'm all for a good war ;D. It will takes a very long time for Ibladesh to be totally destroyed. First, neither Perdan nor Caligus has the nobles to fill the lands of Ibladesh with your banner or that of a colony. Second, we are still the wealthiest realm on the continent and although you may be progressing in your goals, no lands has been taken from us so far. Now with more nobles from the Diocese our other plans that have been put off will be once again reinstated. These schemes are always my favorite ;) I can't wait to see how this war develops in the coming months.
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No lands have been taken from Ibladesh, because all losses have been incurred by the Diocese. And the Perdanite Army that caused that will soon be on Ibladesh's doorstep.
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Then we must prepare ourselves to send Perdan home with their tails between their legs. ;) But seriously, the nobles from Aix can now recruit a decent unit. That might give our armies the extra stregth we need to decide the next battles to our advantage. Staying optimistic here.
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Hm, I don't know...It sounds difficult to recruit without any regions. Guess y'all are heading back to Ibladesh.
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I don't think that anyone believes the Perdan/Caligus v. Ibladesh war will be a short one. The good wars usually aren't. I think this one will last a while. DoctorHarte is right, Perdan and Caligus don't have the nobles (yet) to recolonize Ibladeshian lands with new realms. But if we keep on winning, the usual migration of nobles away from Ibladesh and toward Perdan/Caligus will start to take their toll.
As for the Westmoor betrayal of Perdan/Caligus, I think Caligus sees it as more of a betrayal than Perdan does. If the current regime is kicked out, and a new regime can come to power, there may be a way to salvage the relationship there. It will definitely take some fast talking, though. As for Westmoor/Caligus, I don't think Caligus will be willing to forgive so quickly. Westmoor actually turned and attacked Caligus, while it never reached open warfare with Perdan.
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As for the Westmoor betrayal of Perdan/Caligus
What is this betrayal of Westmoor to Caligus?
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Caligus and the previous Westmoor regime were friends. This is King Jor's regime, which took over from Queen Micna following a rebellion. Jor was not part of the rebellion itself. The rebels all quit, I think, after being investigated for OOC clanning and multi-accounting. (I'm a bit fuzzy on that whole sequence of events.) After the rebel regime toppled, Jor's party moved in and took over.
Jor somehow managed to alienate most of his realm, probably due to his diplomatic choices in being friendly toward Caligus, and not liking the Sultanate. After he was protested out of office, the current ruler moved in. He immediately canceled all alliances, reset diplomacy, and went neutral for a time. A week or so later, Westmoor issued some "give us land or else" manifestos to both Perdan and Caligus. Caligus said "get stuffed", so Westmoor declared war on Caligus and attacked. Westmoor failed spectacularly in several attacks. Perdan's answer was "We're too busy right now to deal with this. We're not even going to discuss it until our current war is over." Westmoor was too busy losing battles to Caligus and Sirion to consider declaring war and attacking Perdan.
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Actually King Jor took over after King Corwin stepped down who was the King that took over after the whole rebellion stuff. Considering how King Jor got thrown out quickly when his friendly action with Caligus got revealed, I wouldn't say that Westmoor as whole was ever on good terms with Caligus. Thus no betrayal, but because how King Jor apparently acted made it seem like it was sorta. I would say the betrayal of Pedan is justifiable though, but not Caligus.
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Westmoor trying to hit Caligus while they are fighting Ibladesh in the South is justification enough for me to want to war Westmoor.
Not to mention a former Judge of Westmoor was a torturer. ((we've got our IG reasons covered))
Yeah, Westmoor might be a while off, but I will watch it burn to the ground. The exact same as I plan on doing to the Church of Ibladesh.
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Not to mention a former Judge of Westmoor was a torturer. ((we've got our IG reasons covered))
I've seen you people claim this, yet you never seem to be able to give a name. Funny how that works.
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Is it bad that I want to have an actual IG surprise? It's not funny at all, it's me wanting to enjoy my come-uppance. I have 1 character that was tortured in Westmoor, and I'd like to take my time exacting vengeance. It's called character development.
It's not like we'd bother making it up mate, Westmoor screwed the pooch as it were, and in due time I'll shout off myself who it was that erred so badly.
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I'm just sad that the Diocese's awesome banner will now no longer appear on the map. Thanks to Shenron (http://wiki.battlemaster.org/wiki/User:Shenron/Banners) for making that piece of art and may his banners colour the Battlemaster Continents :) Rulers take note of him! Take your chance to gloat over your enemies with a superior banner! ;)
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Who knows, we might see those dark greens glide across the map at some point 8)
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Shenron's banners are freakin' awesome. Perdan and Caligus should totally snag one for the new colony...
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Or update your current ones with it *hint* *hint*
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Perdan will not be changing banners any time soon. We already have one that we like.
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It reminds me of a plaque I once saw hanging on a wall.
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Perdan is doing great. Finishing off DoA now huh. And Caligus is somehow pushing back. What is happening with Ibladesh? I mean how are they suddenly losing the war.
General´s incompetence. Right now we get 3-4 diferent orders in 5 minutes.
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General´s incompetence. Right now we get 3-4 diferent orders in 5 minutes.
That's not true. He might expect much of us, but he is certainly not imcompetent. I've served with him back in the days of Tasalak.
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He's a good player and one of our best bets for General. He knows what he's doing, Caligus and Perdan are only just reaching our borders with offensives - Igno was nothing. When it becomes a defensive war for us it will become increasingly hard to hold an offensive on Ibladesh.
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Depends on whether anyone listens when certain people keep pointing out the big weakness of Ibladesh...
But yes, it's going to be a nasty war. When Soliferum got pushed back to this point, the war ground to a stalemate for months. I don't expect this is going to be that bad because Soliferum had narrowed the front to the two northern cities and Ibladesh has plenty of open space we can maneuver into, but we don't have as big a CS advantage as the coalition on the Far East had, either..
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Depends on whether anyone listens when certain people keep pointing out the big weakness of Ibladesh...
True, for both sides :) Ah well, wars are never set. We'll see how it goes. The course of a war can easily change, you gotta love BM for that!
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The course of a war can easily change, you gotta love BM for that!
Yep. The southern wars have gone back and forth for *years* now. I remember when I joined during The Great War, everyone thought that Ibladesh would die for sure, they were so horrible at fighting. (Even their allies laughed at them.) Then they turned it around and were on the winning side against Perdan. But then later on Perdan turned it around and crushed Ibladesh to retake all their land. Then Ibladesh got into a war with Itorunt, and everyone *knew* that Itorunt would kill Ibladesh. Then Ibladesh turned it around, and Itorunt took a nose dive, resulting in Itorunt dying. Then Ibladesh/Caligus got into a war with Perdan, and nearly destroyed Perdan. Then when the Perdan/Caligus v Ibladesh/Diocese war started, everyone knew that Ibladesh would crush Perdan/Caligus. But that hasn't happened, and Perdan/Caligus are actually winning, and starting to take the fight back to Ibladesh.
That's a lot of back and forth. And that's why you fight it out to the end. It's way too early to call a victory in this war. What we're seeing now is only the latest direction of the ebb and flow of the battle lines.
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What we're seeing now is only the latest direction of the ebb and flow of the battle lines.
Just poetic. I applaud to that. :D
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Diplomatic News (7 minutes ago)
The realms of Sirion and Fontan have signed a peace treaty.
Quite the news I would say. A war started around summer 2007 is now over :) 4 years. not bad.
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So, that lasted *almost* as long as The Great War? :)
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Now Fontan should build up power and tur ;D ;D ;D :) :( ::)n around and attack Caligus! Take back Fontan cityyyyy! 8) ;D
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lol that will never happen :)
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lol that will never happen :)
I've seen so many thing happening thinking they would never
-Destruction of Ubent
-Perdan loosing war (I mean when was the last time, like 8 years ago?)
-Destruction of Oligarch
-Comeback Ibladesh switching sides every 2 years
Dude before you know it West-Siron will resurrect in Avamar :P
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I've seen so many thing happening thinking they would never
Yeah, no kidding. Never say never, right?
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Ibladesh is so bad at fighting wow.. losing to Perdan whenever they fight.. even with more units.
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Ibladesh is so bad at fighting wow.. losing to Perdan whenever they fight.. even with more units.
More troops doesn't have to mean a larger CS Though.
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If their cohesion had been better, it would have been a different story. They had over five thousand CS that didn't make it, and their Marshal settings were screwy. If they'd all been together or their settings had been better, they'd have won.
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If their cohesion had been better, it would have been a different story. They had over five thousand CS that didn't make it, and their Marshal settings were screwy. If they'd all been together or their settings had been better, they'd have won.
Definitely; this biggest problem was that one Marshal forgot to unset command staff settings. Ibladesh is reorganizing now though. Some Marshals have been fired. The military has been very disfunctional since I arrived, but things might start to change now.
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Well Gregor's picks for who to side with and come out on top have been right so far. *chuckles* Too bad Westmoor didnt' listen to him at all.
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It's true, Ibladesh is struggling to hold ground. But I think the sides are still fairly even. Perdan has a stronger military mind and capability than Caligus, so we are still adapting and figuring out how to hold off two large realms with that armies we have at our disposal. Lots of activity and messages! :)
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I am very impressed with Perdan and Caligus. They manage to out number Ibladesh. But I think it is more like stalemate than P&C winning.
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I am very impressed with Perdan. Caligus, not that much. It's really Perdan being a pain in the ass for Ibladesh right now.
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If Caligus/Perdan will win this war, they will grow really big...
can't wait for the secession and rebellions to happen afterwards.
Caligus could also create a north and south Caligus, or even divide it into three factions.
Thinking of it, why did Caligus not tactically seceed the southern duchy yet?
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Because tactical secessions are highly illegal.
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Because tactical secessions are highly illegal.
tactital for the deuchy in the sense that the duchy is able to simple remain control so far from the capital.
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I didn't notice any major control problems anywhere during my stay in Caligus. If there are any problems they will be minor, and they can be resolved by other means than secession.
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Dobromir has his realms in hands. I don't doubt that. Sometimes though I have the feeling they lack the greater "statesmen" that Perdan does have.
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Nightmare really has his stuff together. He's got the reputation, connections, and skill to work wonders on the diplomatic front.
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Aside from maintaining the status quo, I cant see much in the way of diplomatic options for Perdan. I suppose they could get a bit closer to Sirion, but everyone else is already an ally (Caligus and OI), a hated enemy (Ibladesh), barely alive (Fontan and SoA) or... Westmoor.
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Fontan... is an empty shell. I think it is still surviving on inertia alone.
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I didn't notice any major control problems anywhere during my stay in Caligus. If there are any problems they will be minor, and they can be resolved by other means than secession.
But that probably means some regions have to keep taxes below 10%.
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If Caligus/Perdan will win this war, they will grow really big...
can't wait for the secession and rebellions to happen afterwards.
Caligus could also create a north and south Caligus, or even divide it into three factions.
Thinking of it, why did Caligus not tactically seceed the southern duchy yet?
Great part of Caligus' income comes from the southern duchy.
If they lose the duchy, they lose a good amout of income, and with them holding Leibo, they also have a great food source region.
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Leibo is destroyed. It produces nothing at all.
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Great part of Caligus' income comes from the southern duchy.
If they lose the duchy, they lose a good amout of income, and with them holding Leibo, they also have a great food source region.
Hamadan produces more gold than Isadril. Not in total, but what is left over after paying for the militia. 8)
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Hamadan and Domus. Who knows what long that will stay ::)
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I myself have been rather bored as a Priest-Lord in Perdan. Things've been quite quiet since the death of Queen Balkeese on the political front, and Sanctus Acies has been almost silent except for the occasional lord temple creation or a few religion reports between the other priests and myself. Perdan's military has really kicked it up a notch despite the quietness for me. I'm sure there are a lot more messages sent within the armies than I see, not being able to assign myself for some reason... :(
And I will state that there was some bad tension in Caligus before I left. Perhaps once it gets sorted they can get the military back on the proper track, it had some good momentum but lost it somewhere along the way.
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I myself have been rather bored as a Priest-Lord in Perdan. Things've been quite quiet since the death of Queen Balkeese on the political front, and Sanctus Acies has been almost silent except for the occasional lord temple creation or a few religion reports between the other priests and myself. Perdan's military has really kicked it up a notch despite the quietness for me. I'm sure there are a lot more messages sent within the armies than I see, not being able to assign myself for some reason... :(
And I will state that there was some bad tension in Caligus before I left. Perhaps once it gets sorted they can get the military back on the proper track, it had some good momentum but lost it somewhere along the way.
Priests cannot be assigned to armies :P
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...Sanctus Acies has been almost silent except for the occasional lord temple creation or a few religion reports between the other priests and myself.
It always has been. It has occasionally gone for months and months without a single message being passed. This is a consequence of the fact that the "religion" of Sanctus Acies really has no substance.
Perdan's military has really kicked it up a notch despite the quietness for me. I'm sure there are a lot more messages sent within the armies than I see, not being able to assign myself for some reason... :(
Standard for Perdan, really. It has historically been a very strategy-oriented realm. There have been times over the years when various people have been very involved in certain RP threads, but most of the realm has always been pretty quiet.
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It always has been. It has occasionally gone for months and months without a single message being passed. This is a consequence of the fact that the "religion" of Sanctus Acies really has no substance.
There was even a time when the religion had only one priest (me)...SA could really have some substance, but with the creator having RL problems and disapeering some times, it got dificult to continue with the RP to create substance...
the idea that they don´t interefere in govermment issues also doesn´t help to give substance.
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There has actually been an ongoing discussion within the church for the formation of a Sanctus Acies realm. As there is no real strife between SA and any of the other churches, except possibly the Flow, it would be a relatively easy enough goal to accomplish.
Taking into account normal considerations of course.
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That still doesn't solve the problem that Sanctus Acies *has no content*.
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Hm, somewhat of a Norse concept of Valhalla and stuff. But there are no prevailing myths that I know about (Sad too since I'm the one and only elder priestess, as in, girl priest) nor any epics. Make one up?
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That would be really pointless if SA created a realm. There is really no point to it. Its not supposed to be a religion with a head of a state.
Regarding the war. Lets say the first couple of months had me very busy an active to hold off a motivated and massive army that Ibladesh had. Now Ibladesh is coming with a good 8K less CS then it had at the beginning when it was just fighting Caligus.
From my part it was very fun and I did alot of the managing dealing with Fontan/SoA/Westmoor on the south (obviously Sirion was an amazing help <3 Peri)
A key moment of the war was Ibladesh's own fault. They had Isadril at one point but they got too greedy and took the bait and went to Hamadan and overstrecthed themselves. It was pre-planned Ibladesh fell for it and in the end Caligus was able to get militia back. It does help have people being more loyal to their realm then a religion too ;)
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Sanctus Acies could be the delivery method of my 'Darkhollow' concept... As there is no quarrel with any set of Gods from the church's viewpoint, they could get along quite well with others, unless it came down to personal matters obviously. It could establish itself with assistance from the other religions in trying to create an actual roleplay and religion based interplay, unlike the monotony of what I've experienced in other theocracies. It wouldn't even need to be a theocracy in all actuality (the new realm), as long as it is a truly honourable place, Sanctus Acies would approve of calling somewhere there it's actual home. I've a notion to create a Monarchy somewhere on the EC with a more... goofball tone to it. Not a stupid kind of realm with people constantly skipping into battle wearing frilly shirts and no pants, but one that: A. enjoys open conversation, B. has a decent number of religions within it's borders, to allow for some actual development and interplay between religions, such as we saw in olden days (try to tell me that any of the worlds religions didn't develop in more ways than just war, and I will chuckle quite heartily), C. has a more Ducal based powerbase, in order to promote more people into positions of status and try to keep players (old and new hopefully) interested, D. encourages roleplays of the lives of Nobles, in order to promote character development for everyone.
I know, I'm asking for a lot... But wth, EC could use some change.
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I know, I'm asking for a lot... But wth, EC could use some change.
Your concept does not sound much different.
If you seek a change in politics, you'd best found a new rich(in sense of roleplay depth) and unifying religion (or culture) with a goal to safe or doom the world or certain (groups of) people.
Not a colony of an already existing religion thats part of one of the three big political powers in EC.
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Sanctus Acies could be the delivery method of my 'Darkhollow' concept... As there is no quarrel with any set of Gods from the church's viewpoint, they could get along quite well with others, unless it came down to personal matters obviously. It could establish itself with assistance from the other religions in trying to create an actual roleplay and religion based interplay, unlike the monotony of what I've experienced in other theocracies. It wouldn't even need to be a theocracy in all actuality (the new realm), as long as it is a truly honourable place, Sanctus Acies would approve of calling somewhere there it's actual home. I've a notion to create a Monarchy somewhere on the EC with a more... goofball tone to it. Not a stupid kind of realm with people constantly skipping into battle wearing frilly shirts and no pants, but one that: A. enjoys open conversation, B. has a decent number of religions within it's borders, to allow for some actual development and interplay between religions, such as we saw in olden days (try to tell me that any of the worlds religions didn't develop in more ways than just war, and I will chuckle quite heartily), C. has a more Ducal based powerbase, in order to promote more people into positions of status and try to keep players (old and new hopefully) interested, D. encourages roleplays of the lives of Nobles, in order to promote character development for everyone.
I know, I'm asking for a lot... But wth, EC could use some change.
This is nothing most decent rulers dont try to do. You will find however that most ppl just want to actually move blindly without saying much. The only way you will experience a talkative realm is if you gather the players that do try to roleplay their characters and its impossible to get them all in one realm. Plus your religion concept wont work especially when elders of the religions you allow in start to squabble and squeeze their influence in your realm.
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[...] I've a notion to create a Monarchy somewhere on the EC with a more... goofball tone to it. Not a stupid kind of realm with people constantly skipping into battle wearing frilly shirts and no pants[...].
I know, I'm asking for a lot... But wth, EC could use some change.
It was called a battle-tutu and it was traditional of Norland to fight with it. All great warriors had it u.u
Now your idea is good. The problem would be to find the nobles, and the city to do this.
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If Perdan/Caligus manage to defeat Ibladesh there's likely to be some spare space for a new realm.
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Possibly two or three realms, actually, depending on size. At the very least the Ibladesh Duchy and the Itourant Duchy.
Well, neither will likely be very habitable for some time after the war...
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I cant see Ibladesh being completely destroyed. Hunting them all the way to Itorunt will take a long, long time.
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Could always do a Sherman-esque march and burn all the food stores around. Starve them to go rogue and end that last holdout.
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At this stage, that will take a long-long time. ::) No one has made much progress except Perdan but we still have our original borders and the religion game is playing on our side prett heavily. I was able to get Dimwood to 40% followers in a matter of days just to play around. Then I went inactive a few das in Abadan. Oops ::)
But it's been a continually fun war. Ibladesh has managed to evaluate, change, and reconstruct our military in order to fight two realms. We are thriving off of this war, as well, as our playerbase is continuing to stay at around 90 players including some brilliant minds in our military council. I would be interested to compare the activity of Ibladesh to other realms, but I wouldn't believe anything but the raw facts Tom could provide. Forums are too easily exaggerated.
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Religion game will collapse pretty quickly if Perdan and Caligus manage more marches like the one Perdan did a couple of weeks back. We had to have destroyed a few thousand gold worth of temples and shrines (not to mention taking the treasuries). And if we can take out the food...You'll see exactly how quickly a realm can collapse when mass starvation hits. It's not pretty.
By the same token, if Perdan and Caligus !@#$ up just once and Ibladesh gets an intact army into the heartlands to do the same, they'll be hurt almost as badly.
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On Dwilight, you'll see pretty soon an example of how bad starvation can be to a realm (Caerwyn, in this case), so get your scribes ready to record the results of that.
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At this stage, that will take a long-long time. ::) No one has made much progress except Perdan
I see Caligus is on your doorstep.
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And the haven't done much but raid :-\ Leibo has always been up in the air, Isadril is starving..
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On Dwilight, you'll see pretty soon an example of how bad starvation can be to a realm (Caerwyn, in this case), so get your scribes ready to record the results of that.
Hmmm.....
/me makes a note to write down Caerwyn's pop levels at the end of autumn, so he can calculate the death toll....
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Hmmm.....
/me makes a note to write down Caerwyn's pop levels at the end of autumn, so he can calculate the death toll....
Make sure you separate the peasants you kill and the peasants who die of hunger :P
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Why? It's Caerwyn's fault they're dead. If they're worried about it, they can divvy up the responsibility themselves.
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And the haven't done much but raid :-\ Leibo has always been up in the air, Isadril is starving..
Isadril actually isnt starving at all and it hasnt been. Also im pretty sure you had a vast amount of regions about to revolt a week ago. We just ran out of army to continue the push
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I just love every realm trying to act like they are invincible end up losing wars :)
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Oh my god. SoA TLs wounded me 4 turns ago and I still haven't recovered. What the HELL. The wounds got worsen twice. Is this a joke lol. Argh I've been only appointed for 4 days...
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Oh my god. SoA TLs wounded me 4 turns ago and I still haven't recovered. What the HELL. The wounds got worsen twice. Is this a joke lol. Argh I've been only appointed for 4 days...
It might be a bug. Our ruler in OT got a minor wound that kept getting worse to the point of being "near death" and it turned out to be a bug. Meanwhile, he was incapacitated for 11 days.
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Two or three days isn't unusual for a serious wound.
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It was a light wound. And got worse two turns in a row. My char finally got better though. Never seem wounds worsening crap before lol.
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It was a light wound. And got worse two turns in a row. My char finally got better though. Never seem wounds worsening crap before lol.
It's been around for a few months now. You should try it with an old character; possibly out for several weeks!
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Oh my god. SoA TLs wounded me 4 turns ago and I still haven't recovered. What the HELL. The wounds got worsen twice. Is this a joke lol. Argh I've been only appointed for 4 days...
What makes this funny is that all the infils are bitching and moaning about the new wounding system, too. Except they constantly bitch about how wounds in the new system always heal immediately, thus making infils useless. :P
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What makes this funny is that all the infils are bitching and moaning about the new wounding system, too. Except they constantly bitch about how wounds in the new system always heal immediately, thus making infils useless. :P
That is a load of bull!@#$. Just a normal TL wounded me for past two days (which made me feel very very frustrated.) and imagine what infiltrators can do.
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It all depends on age.
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That is a load of bull!@#$. Just a normal TL wounded me for past two days (which made me feel very very frustrated.) and imagine what infiltrators can do.
I imagine that a good swing of a sword easily takes you down for a few days.
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Pissed off peasants take me down for days, if not over a week, at times while preaching. Suck it up, armor wearer. =P
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That is a load of bull!@#$. Just a normal TL wounded me for past two days (which made me feel very very frustrated.) and imagine what infiltrators can do.
A wound from a infil has no greater chance of lasting for an extended period then a wound from a TL. Though we infils do have the chance of wounding you more often I guess.
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A compromise pleasing everyone might be attainable...
When infils are caught failing an attack, it says they are caught with a poisoned dagger. Why is this poison ignored everywhere?
Add a new status: poisoned. Poison prevents one's condition from improving (though it can worsen), and lasts for a full day on a partial assassination and two full days for a complete assassination attempt. Then, make healing overall easier, so that a wound in battle or by preaching has less odds of keeping one out of action for a week.
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One of the few times I've caught myself agreeing with Chenier. :P
*scoots him over to the proper area to propose it to the Devs* >.>
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Now there's an interesting idea...
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I see Caligus is on your doorstep.
Now Caligus is on Fontan doorstep. By taking over Fontan city, Caligus is really inviting trouble. But then again Fontan does not have military to get back their own namesake city just yet :'(
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I admit, re-reading this thread makes it all the more amusing...
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At least we almost see the conclusion of Perdan/Caligus versus Ibladesh/Aix war. Aix long dead and Ibladesh just lost their battle in their own Ibladesh city. Soon the dusts all settle down. Seeing Ibladesh many cities spawned a lot of new realms recently :P
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All done at the direction of Perdan and Caligus, with certain restrictions on them. Like no Church of Ibladesh.
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To begin, FIRST POST ON THE FORUM W00T btw I play with the Thunder Strike characters so I may know some of you... I said some...
Second, Not to cross any revenge boundries here but I hope a new realm is created in Ibladesh City.
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I admit, re-reading this thread makes it all the more amusing...
Spot on. What's the status of EC these days? Post-war, that is.
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Spot on. What's the status of EC these days? Post-war, that is.
Armonia and Eponlynn just war with each other. 2 Ladies Queens about to compete for the United Confederacy of Ibladesh former regions title. There can only be 1 winner of course for the Arch Queen ::)
Perdan, Westmoor and Caligus about to mop off Fontan from East Continent island. Fontan down to one last city. Until Sirion Elves being curious Wood Elves and high sensitive ears, listening for any conspiracy, Sirion declared war against Westmoor. Which in turn gave Fontan some time to rebuild their lands and regain back 1 of their former region from Westmoor. Sirion Elves too complacent, they suffer some early battles defeats before bouncing back to win some battles against Westmoor.
This account source come from highly biased former Fontan Banker 8)
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Armonia and Eponlynn just war with each other. 2 Ladies Queens about to compete for the United Confederacy of Ibladesh former regions title. There can only be 1 winner of course for the Arch Queen ::)
Perdan, Westmoor and Caligus about to mop off Fontan from East Continent island. Fontan down to one last city. Until Sirion Elves being curious Wood Elves and high sensitive ears, listening for any conspiracy, Sirion declared war against Westmoor. Which in turn gave Fontan some time to rebuild their lands and regain back 1 of their former region from Westmoor. Sirion Elves too complacent, they suffer some early battles defeats before bouncing back to win some battles against Westmoor.
This account source come from highly biased former Fontan Banker 8)
Outdated.
Fontan is now dead. Fontan lost her last city and there is no way to get the city back.
Westmoor just drove Commonyr to rogue so Westmoor can expect to lose a couple regions now.
Armonia seems to be kicking Epollyn pretty hard. Unless Epollyn can come up with something, I think Armonia will be the winner.
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Eh, Commonyr again. It's completely understandable that Westmoor doesn't want an often hostile realm holding a region adjacent to their capital.
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Eh, Commonyr again. It's completely understandable that Westmoor doesn't want an often hostile realm holding a region adjacent to their capital.
Now Sirion is looting the hell out of Greatbridge and Dublin. Greatbridge will most likely go to rogue in a day or two.
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Now Sirion is looting the hell out of Greatbridge and Dublin. Greatbridge will most likely go to rogue in a day or two.
Oh, no. Where is Westmoor mother as we speaking? :P
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Hmm my prediction
Sirion will be destroyed by inner turmoil,
Nivemus will hide in it's small corner,
Caligus will gain more regions,
Armonía and Eponllyn will destroy each other (two birds one stone),
OI will be engulfed by the volcano,
Perdan will have a fun tournament
Westmoor will fight for it's very life
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Hmm my prediction
Sirion will be destroyed by inner turmoil,
I'm glad you aren't a weather forecaster...
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Oh, no. Where is Westmoor mother as we speaking? :P
*yawn* Keep it up. You and Sonya are quite the entertaining double act.
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Oh, no. Where is Westmoor mother as we speaking? :P
Oh, no. Where is Fontan as we speaking? Oh yeah... dead... :P
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*yawn* Keep it up. You and Sonya are quite the entertaining double act.
Huh? :( Come on! you know you are eager to go cry to your friends for help, still haven't found the excuse to do so.
But don't worry, the war in the south is entertaining, also i have nothing against Westmoor, unless i am called of course. (see quote)
peace!
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Let's go back to the topic. Let's not act like middle schoolers here.
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so how many visible wars are being fault? 2
Political unforeseen wars? _?
Will OI make a power grab a Nivemus?
Will Perdan rally behind Westmoor?
What will Caligus do?
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so how many visible wars are being fault? 2
Political unforeseen wars? _?
Will OI make a power grab a Nivemus?
Will Perdan rally behind Westmoor?
What will Caligus do?
OI doesn't have any more nobles to spare. They won't attack Nivemus without a partner. And they are still Sirion's ally.
Perdan might rally behind Westmoor, but I wouldn't count on it.
Caligus will gain more land. Maybe join the Southern War on Eponllyn's side at just the right time.
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Caligus can barely hold on to what they have right now. Can't imagine how they'd be able to expand.
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I hope no one interfere in the war betwen Eponllyn and Armonia.
There is only 1 region who separates both Capital Cities, i foresee plenty of battles there and between expeditionary forces trying to spy each other on the north side of the lake. This situation is ideal for the player who seek a more strategy approach to warfare.
Then if a year have passed and no changes have been made and everything is a boring stalemate, then as punishment send Perdan to smack Eponllyn and Caligus to do the same to Armonia, then restart!
Peace!
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Huh? :( Come on! you know you are eager to go cry to your friends for help, still haven't found the excuse to do so.
But don't worry, the war in the south is entertaining, also i have plenty against Westmoor, unless i am called of course. (see quote)
peace!
I'd say what I think about that first line, but I'm sure one of the moderators is just waiting for an opportunity to use their powers. Also, I've fixed your second line for accuracy.
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I'm glad you aren't a weather forecaster...
This. Sirion is the largest and smoothest running realm I've played in yet, but then again I spent most of my time there and only have been playing for 3 years..
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I'm glad you aren't a weather forecaster...
Well, if he makes a habit of being completely wrong all the time, then it sounds like he'd make a very good weather forecaster.