Veinsormoot (Split from Luria Nova thread)

[Chenier]

Possibly. I guess the big thing will be to see if anyone steps in to help fill the leadership void once Vellos goes.

True. It'll be interesting to see if Triunism can stay alive.

The Maroccidens in general is rather... religiously boring.

Speaking of which, religions being taxed again will really hurt. While I like that as a lord I can tax any temples I don't adhere to to make their life more complicated, imo it should be counterbalanced with the religion's ability to ask for an automatic tax share of the region.

Religions were already ridiculous money pits as it was... And it's now getting worse.

[Perth]

Speaking of which, religions being taxed again will really hurt. While I like that as a lord I can tax any temples I don't adhere to to make their life more complicated, imo it should be counterbalanced with the religion's ability to ask for an automatic tax share of the region.

Religions were already ridiculous money pits as it was... And it's now getting worse.

You won't get to choose how much you tax each temple, will you?

[Vellos]

Speaking of which, religions being taxed again will really hurt. While I like that as a lord I can tax any temples I don't adhere to to make their life more complicated, imo it should be counterbalanced with the religion's ability to ask for an automatic tax share of the region.

Religions were already ridiculous money pits as it was... And it's now getting worse.

Indeed. I very mush dislike this. I've been stockpiling gold in Triunist temples for a while as a means of building up a personal fortune I can use to support my preferred guilds for years if necessary, and now it will all be taxed. Outrageous!

[Galvez]

And most Lords who are part of a religion do not even want to tax their 'own' temples.

[Telrunya]

You won't get to choose how much you tax each temple, will you?

Temples will be taxed at halfrate. You can create always attempt to create a Tax Haven (Region that taxes at 2%) that will allow you to save a lot of that gold, especially if you have enough influence to capture the Duke Share as well.

[Chenier]

And most Lords who are part of a religion do not even want to tax their 'own' temples.

Indeed, because it is usually their responsibility to make sure the local coffers are filled. This just means they have to travel back to their region that much more often, because that tax is deducted from the treasury no matter how far away from the temple you are or how infrequently you visit your own region.

[Galvez]

Temples will be taxed at halfrate. You can create always attempt to create a Tax Haven (Region that taxes at 2%) that will allow you to save a lot of that gold, especially if you have enough influence to capture the Duke Share as well.

I guess the easiest way is to make sure the gold is returned to the temple, than you do not have to lower the taxes of your region (for large amounts of course).

[Telrunya]

Indeed, because it is usually their responsibility to make sure the local coffers are filled. This just means they have to travel back to their region that much more often, because that tax is deducted from the treasury no matter how far away from the temple you are or how infrequently you visit your own region.

You can use the Global Treasury for that easily.

I guess the easiest way is to make sure the gold is returned to the temple, than you do not have to lower the taxes of your region (for large amounts of course).

True, have the Duke be also the Lord and he can return pretty much everything except the Ruler share. The 2% Tax Rate is just to further minimize the gold taken from the Treasury.

[Indirik]

You can use the Global Treasury for that easily.

You do realize that maintenance paid out of the global treasury is more expensive, right?

[Telrunya]

Nope :) Never knew that.

[Chenier]

You do realize that maintenance paid out of the global treasury is more expensive, right?

By what factor again? 2x? I think it's 4x, right? Manageable for small religions, but large multi-realm religions like SA or VE, not so much...

[Telrunya]

Studying the last two reports, CoI paid 15 gold maintenance from the Global Treasury and lost 25 in the Global Treasury. But still, especially since CoI is reasonably big and rich, the costs are nothing.

[Galvez]

By what factor again? 2x? I think it's 4x, right? Manageable for small religions, but large multi-realm religions like SA or VE, not so much...

The factor is 1,5 if I am right

[Carna]

The factor is 1,5 if I am right

1.5? Its been a long while, but to the best of my recollection it was more than that. I think it was twice as much, but wouldn't be surprised if it was more. Not something that should happen too often, imo. Doesn't mean it doesn't, but y'know...

[Phellan]

On the FEI our religion pays almost exclusively out of the Global treasury for some  (most of) our smaller temples.  Only the major ones have a large bank account, and they support the smaller ones when global treasury is restocked.