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Fifth Invasion

Started by Lefanis, December 02, 2011, 02:43:06 PM

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Indirik

Kill the daimons? Why would you want to do something like that? The daimons are our friends. The are here to help us. ;)
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Tom

Quote from: Geronus on January 12, 2012, 06:32:30 PM
Huh, either Overlord is trying to make lemonade out of lemons, or we've been duped by 1st Son. Which would be a little irritating actually, since we've been given absolutely no other indication that I am aware of of what we need to be doing to save ourselves...

It's not the job of your enemies to tell you how to defeat them, you know?

I'm having a blast. But now it's time for the fun and games to end and the real invasion to begin... nah, just messing with you. Again.  ;D

Telrunya

Quote from: Indirik on January 12, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
Kill the daimons? Why would you want to do something like that? The daimons are our friends. The are here to help us. ;)

Should have thought about that when they actually offered to become 'friends' :P

Tom

Quote from: Telrunya on January 12, 2012, 08:28:41 PM
Should have thought about that when they actually offered to become 'friends' :P

Totally. About the only thing where I would've had no clue on how to react would have been if on the first "surrender or die" message everyone would've replied "ok, we surrender. Hail Overlord, our new master." :)

Fortunately, I correctly guessed that wouldn't happen.

Indirik

Well, if I were on BT back then, I may have accepted. It would have been interesting, to say the least.
If at first you don't succeed, don't take up skydiving.

Zakilevo

Indeed. Helping daimons out is very tempting.

Lorgan

Oh well... not like anyone was counting on the Light to begin with. If they want to help, they shouldn't always be so late to the party.

Now where are those Archons?!

Geronus

Quote from: Tom on January 12, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
It's not the job of your enemies to tell you how to defeat them, you know?

I'm having a blast. But now it's time for the fun and games to end and the real invasion to begin... nah, just messing with you. Again.  ;D

Which is a totally fair point, but that being the case I would have thought that there would be an alternate source of information about how we can slow or stop the Invasion. In the absence of *any* other plot hooks (and in all fairness I am hardly privy to everything that's going on on the island, so there might be some I'm completely unaware of), are you really that surprised that the rulers cottoned on to the only one being offered to us? We weren't exactly given any other options to choose from...

songqu88@gmail.com

Quote from: Indirik on January 12, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
Kill the daimons? Why would you want to do something like that? The daimons are our friends. The are here to help us. ;)

Wrong island, lol? (Don't take that seriously.)

And the Light's not dead! Listen to the fat lady (Marta) who sang (Guess that means it was over I guess) and said that we need...wait that was Virgil. Oh well, keep up the faith, whatever that means.

Tom

Quote from: Geronus on January 12, 2012, 10:23:36 PM
Which is a totally fair point, but that being the case I would have thought that there would be an alternate source of information about how we can slow or stop the Invasion. In the absence of *any* other plot hooks (and in all fairness I am hardly privy to everything that's going on on the island, so there might be some I'm completely unaware of), are you really that surprised that the rulers cottoned on to the only one being offered to us? We weren't exactly given any other options to choose from...

...which could have been part of the plan? If I were a con man, the first thing I'd try to make sure is that my information is the only one you get.

You are too used to 3rd and 4th invasion logic - that some NPC somewhere will tell you the plot, like a quest-giver in WoW. Rude awakening: The quest-giver has his own agenda.  ;D

But I know that I am dropping enough clues, making my actions and their consequences and the chains of causality clear enough, because I know that many of the important rules have already been concluded correctly by at least one person. So they can be concluded from the evidence available. Now given the various distrusts, hostilities, gaps in knowledge, loss of information, etc. etc. the task is certainly hard. But it's not impossible.

Oh, and do make sure you verify all your assumptions. It may not be the conclusions that are off, it may be the assumptions you start with. That you need a plot hook to survive the invasion may be one of them.


But the invasion so far is an extremely interesting social experiment. I think next time I'll call in a few psychology and sociology students and let them map out the flow of information amongs players. It is utterly fascinating. Can't say more without giving things away, unfortunately. Well, maybe one thing: Lots of people are wondering what the heck just happened in Villriil, even though some players know exactly what happened.

Zakilevo

Huh I wonder who those people are. We know for sure we have traitors among us. Should check where people are more often.

Sypher

After reading the messages my character got....

*facepalm*

Its like we trying to sink the island.


songqu88@gmail.com

Well some characters are...

Wonder if their players will complain if BT really is sunk.

Sypher

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Quote from: Artemesia on January 13, 2012, 03:44:39 AM
Well some characters are...

Wonder if their players will complain if BT really is sunk.

I could see that happening.

Quote from: Tom on January 13, 2012, 12:19:21 AM
But the invasion so far is an extremely interesting social experiment. I think next time I'll call in a few psychology and sociology students and let them map out the flow of information amongs players. It is utterly fascinating. Can't say more without giving things away, unfortunately. Well, maybe one thing: Lots of people are wondering what the heck just happened in Villriil, even though some players know exactly what happened.

A lot of people do seem to be stingy on sharing info. My character is a Judge of apparently one of the realms involved w/ what happened in Villriil and I didn't know what was going on. Partly my fault for not asking questions about the couple vague letters I saw.

Zakilevo

I still don't know what happened in Villriil. I actually gave up on that region long time ago. My attention is focused on Piwani. That region will be pivotal for both daimons and humans.