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Started by mikm, November 07, 2011, 08:55:18 PM

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De-Legro

Quote from: GoldPanda on November 17, 2011, 06:28:11 AM
Sex is recreational too. We still call them "sex workers".

:-[ ;D ::)                 :-* 8)

Because it generally isn't recreational for THEM.
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Shenron

Quote from: De-Legro on November 17, 2011, 07:08:20 AM
Because it generally isn't recreational for THEM.

Some people are just !@#$ed....

GET IT!?  ;D



..... :-[
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I find offense with your statements, us prostitutes are a proud working class!

Ramiel

Quote from: Gustav Kuriga on November 17, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
I find offense with your statements, us prostitutes are a proud working class!

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mikm

Quote from: GoldPanda on November 17, 2011, 06:28:11 AM
Sex is recreational too. We still call them "sex workers".

:-[ ;D ::)                 :-* 8)
War is work.If it wasn't why would your soldiers keep expecting salaries?

De-Legro

Quote from: mikm on November 18, 2011, 11:36:11 AM
War is work.If it wasn't why would your soldiers keep expecting salaries?

Its not work for nobles though, it is a opportunity to

1) Fulfil their Feudal duties
2) Prove their skills and prowess
3) Loot shiny stuff
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Heq

4) Fulfill religious obligations

Jhaelen Irsei

Courtiers often do not have a unit to pay and mantain...in general they become pretty rich because of taxes that they don't have to spend, so what's the point to give them other gold?

vonGenf

Quote from: Jhaelen Irsei on November 29, 2011, 03:11:24 PM
Courtiers often do not have a unit to pay and mantain...

I almost always had a unit as a courtier.
After all it's a roleplaying game.

egamma

Quote from: Jhaelen Irsei on November 29, 2011, 03:11:24 PM
Courtiers often do not have a unit to pay and mantain...in general they become pretty rich because of taxes that they don't have to spend, so what's the point to give them other gold?

You can't perform police OR civil work without a unit.

Chenier

Quote from: egamma on November 29, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
You can't perform police OR civil work without a unit.

A unit also lets you to quickly respond to small hordes as they spawn nearby, instead of waiting for the main army that is likely days away.
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Jhaelen Irsei

Quote from: vonGenf on November 29, 2011, 07:09:19 PM
I almost always had a unit as a courtier.

Yes, certainly often Courtiers have a unit but it's small, nothing compared to those you need as a Warrior during a war.

I played lot of time as a Courtier and often you can do you job unitless without problem.

vonGenf

Quote from: Jhaelen Irsei on November 30, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
Yes, certainly often Courtiers have a unit but it's small, nothing compared to those you need as a Warrior during a war.

I played lot of time as a Courtier and often you can do you job unitless without problem.

OK, I guess the points I want to make are more general.

The first is that you can't pigeonhole player actions. I play an infiltrator who carries large units. Why? Because I can, and it's none of your business; I also played a unitless warrior at some point.

The second is that what you think other people need as gold is only mildly related to what they should receive. If you, as a Lord, want to give smaller tax share to courtiers, that's fine, but don't expect to have swarm of courtiers come and take care of your region afterwards. Same goes for priests and infils. If you want one as a knight, give him a good enough share that he will accept to do your bidding, and that's it.

That being said, I don't actually think that having "courtier bounty pots" is such a great idea. I just disagree with your argument that "courtier don't need gold because they don't need troops". This thinking leads to other idea, such as limiting tax share for priests, that I think goes against the spirit of the game.
After all it's a roleplaying game.

Chenier

Quote from: vonGenf on November 30, 2011, 01:53:46 PM
That being said, I don't actually think that having "courtier bounty pots" is such a great idea. I just disagree with your argument that "courtier don't need gold because they don't need troops". This thinking leads to other idea, such as limiting tax share for priests, that I think goes against the spirit of the game.

Priests used to, for the longest time, be unable to receive an oath. How's that for limiting their tax share? ;)
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